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Skullgrin
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Re: Life after RR 80...

Post#21 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:25 pm

Acidic wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:09 pm I could not see you normalize the figures against number of the players playing said classes.
Just having the raw numbers over level xxx is on its own not terribly interesting as this is equally likely to be number of played and not representing what you are claiming. Maybe in the post this is mitigated but I did not see it.
To make this reasonable I would try normalize each population of classes using total number over 40/40 .


The problem is, with the tools available here you can't get all the numbers. The Armory tool will only pull the top 20 characters if you filter by renown, and if there are more than 20 of the same rank it appears to randomize the order they are shown in. The Who's Online tool is much more comprehensive in how you can look at characters, but it only shows those online - useless for examining the player base as a whole. A tool that combined the abilities of both of them would the ideal solution, but this is beyond my abilities.
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Charon
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Re: Life after RR 80...

Post#22 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:38 pm

Spoiler:
Nishka wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:17 pm
Charon wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:26 am
Tesq wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:22 pm Ib just need mid mastery to be fix not alot to say....just nothing has been done same for chosen mid mastery, kobs / bg right mastery.
Stone path need rework. Its totally wierd that only interesting ability for snb ib from his officialy main tree is 5pt outhbond.
-oath of vengeance should be core
-avenging the debt is a joke
- shield master might seem good but from cost/efect perspective not worth and its easy to replace
- oathstone - pve skill

Try compare it with SM Vaul or Knight Viligance paths. Path of Stone does not bring much nor for Ib neither for his pt

BTW life after 80 is boring and full of pve ;)
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Sure, let's compare it.

Knight's Path of Vigilance
Coordination tactic - mostly useless, unless dueling against melee
To Victory aura - useless
Dirty Tricks tactics- ok, though overnerfed
Smashing Counter - a regular KD, which ALL other tank classes get as core
Laurels of Victory - useless
Vigilance - good
Flawless defense - useless
realy how long do you play ktbs....... is it efect of lack of knowlege (to prove my point... i had 96 rr knight at aor and have 56 rr in ror)
coordination must have tk for pve
to victory - wierd aura but might be usefull in some situations
smasing conter - this is great tell me which order tk has free, on demand kd, ...pls give me example.....
vigilance - its one of the best abilities in game
Karak Azgal - Haron WP
Karak Norn - Haeroon KoTBS
RoR:
- Chaeron - SM
- Nogrun - magnet eng
- Cheron - i want sorc Black Horror skill for my BW ;)

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Nishka
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Re: Life after RR 80...

Post#23 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:43 pm

Charon wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:38 pm
Spoiler:
Nishka wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:17 pm
Charon wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:26 am

Stone path need rework. Its totally wierd that only interesting ability for snb ib from his officialy main tree is 5pt outhbond.
-oath of vengeance should be core
-avenging the debt is a joke
- shield master might seem good but from cost/efect perspective not worth and its easy to replace
- oathstone - pve skill

Try compare it with SM Vaul or Knight Viligance paths. Path of Stone does not bring much nor for Ib neither for his pt

BTW life after 80 is boring and full of pve ;)
[/quot

Sure, let's compare it.

Knight's Path of Vigilance
Coordination tactic - mostly useless, unless dueling against melee
To Victory aura - useless
Dirty Tricks tactics- ok, though overnerfed
Smashing Counter - a regular KD, which ALL other tank classes get as core
Laurels of Victory - useless
Vigilance - good
Flawless defense - useless
realy how long do you play ktbs....... is it efect of lack of knowlege (to prove my point... i had 96 rr knight at aor and have 56 rr in ror)
coordination must have tk for pve
to victory - wierd aura but might be usefull in some situations
smasing conter - this is great tell me which order tk has free, on demand kd, ...pls give me example.....
vigilance - its one of the best abilities in game
I've been playing KOTBS for 10 years and had 100rr character on live.
To victory is trash that no one would ever use.
Vigilance is an ok compensation for lowest tank avoidances in the game
Every tank in the game but kotbs has core KD. Block requirement doesn't matter, since in you have nearly 100% uptime from fluff damage and guard blocking
PVE? Like, seriously?
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TenTonHammer
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Re: Life after RR 80...

Post#24 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:57 pm

Nishka wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:43 pm
Every tank in the game but kotbs has core KD.
Im sorry what?

please show me core KD on chosen, BO, SM :?


Every tank has a 9 point specable KD

that is not 'core"
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Re: Life after RR 80...

Post#25 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:08 pm

I dont know how you do it but making a thread about how many people are above rr80 change its topic to "Kobts is worse than IB actually" is quite the impressive feat.

Stupid, yes, but still impressive.

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