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Re: Engi vs Magus dot dmg

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:15 am
by Dammy095
Sulorie wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:11 am
Dammy095 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:06 am me engi is aoe specced and has 0 points in direct damage tree, his dots ticking 100-200 on tanks, not 25-60
Aren't most aoe dots magical damage, while both long range ST dots are physical?
i mean my rifleman tree dots, which has 0 points in it

Re: Engi vs Magus dot dmg

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:32 am
by abodam
Sulorie wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:11 am
Dammy095 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:06 am me engi is aoe specced and has 0 points in direct damage tree, his dots ticking 100-200 on tanks, not 25-60
Aren't most aoe dots magical damage, while both long range ST dots are physical?
You are correct. Engi has a whole tree dedicated to magical damage.

Re: Engi vs Magus dot dmg

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:14 am
by Glorian
Signal Flare and the Dot from Hollow Points is physical.
Frag Grenade, Incendary, Phosphour, Fricition Burn, Stiyk Bomb are Corporeal.

And I was talking shooting at real tanks, not these 2h chosen. The later ones can be taken down quite fast.

Re: Engi vs Magus dot dmg

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:39 am
by hulkhug
Glorian wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:14 am Signal Flare and the Dot from Hollow Points is physical.
Frag Grenade, Incendary, Phosphour, Fricition Burn, Stiyk Bomb are Corporeal.

And I was talking shooting at real tanks, not these 2h chosen. The later ones can be taken down quite fast.

It's the same on Magus. Target proper tank and on a rare occasion of him not disrupting the dot you will see high crit of under 100. This all also depends on build, buffs from other players etc. Bolt of change does hit a proper tank for around 600 which is not bad.

Re: Engi vs Magus dot dmg

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:13 pm
by Aethilmar
Does Wisdom affect disrupt chance for Engie?

Re: Engi vs Magus dot dmg

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:08 am
by anarchypark
Aethilmar wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:13 pm Does Wisdom affect disrupt chance for Engie?

technically it does.
against 1k int stat, wisdom disrupt reduced to zero.

Re: Engi vs Magus dot dmg

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:16 pm
by roadkillrobin
Engie have: Armor debuff, an aditional BS tactic with armor pen, a autoattack and weapon dps contribution to their skills to make up for them doing physical damage. They have higher dmg potential.

Re: Engi vs Magus dot dmg

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:33 pm
by hulkhug
Damage wise engineer is good as he can deal damage and interrupt or delay cast time without using silence or cc (Magus can not do this with magical attacks and there is also no auto attack). Problem with engineer is the knockback or silence which has a cast time + animation so the spell does not land straight as the cast time is finished but rather wait for additional animation of grenade flying before the cc is applied while Magus one is instant which should be changed for the engineer in way that animation should be tied to cast time, not have its own invisible cast time atop of default one.