Solo Queue Tier List (Destro) - Updates in work

[Hypernia]

Theres a mix of changes that would affect this. DPS DoK probably falls behind a little because the Sov sets are a bit worse than the DPS ones and the heal debuff changes. Mara probably goes to S tier, DPS DoK to A tier. Also the Sov set for heal DoK is absurd with the SE regen, and the defensive stats, it's S tier.

Not that any of this matters, ranked is dead anyway since cities came out. Literally havent seen any pops since then.

[nat3s]

This list is garbage lol, snb tanks are hugely important, Mara is garbage, not enough pressure.

S tier is your burst/aoe cleavers Slayer, Choppa, aSW, mSH, WL, Sorc, BW along with decent snb tanks that know how to stay in ranged of their guard targets, for heals you want zealot, RP, DoK or WP. Shaman is bottom of the pack for heals (extra hot doesnt help in a burst meta), AM can be ok due to its ST heal, but much like Shaman suffers from a long castings aoe heal not landing in time.

[Sanao]

This list is garbage lol, snb tanks are hugely important, Mara is garbage, not enough pressure.

S tier is your burst/aoe cleavers Slayer, Choppa, aSW, mSH, WL, Sorc, BW along with decent snb tanks that know how to stay in ranged of their guard targets, for heals you want zealot, RP, DoK or WP. Shaman is bottom of the pack for heals (extra hot doesnt help in a burst meta), AM can be ok due to its ST heal, but much like Shaman suffers from a long castings aoe heal not landing in time.

This was a solo queue tier list for the 6v6 Caledor Woods Ranked Solo scenario. Most of what you just said isn't accurate for that gameplay.

[nat3s]

This list is garbage lol, snb tanks are hugely important, Mara is garbage, not enough pressure.

S tier is your burst/aoe cleavers Slayer, Choppa, aSW, mSH, WL, Sorc, BW along with decent snb tanks that know how to stay in ranged of their guard targets, for heals you want zealot, RP, DoK or WP. Shaman is bottom of the pack for heals (extra hot doesnt help in a burst meta), AM can be ok due to its ST heal, but much like Shaman suffers from a long castings aoe heal not landing in time.

This was a solo queue tier list for the 6v6 Caledor Woods Ranked Solo scenario. Most of what you just said isn't accurate for that gameplay.

Well aware of that.

[ironk]

You guys underestimate the Dps shaman. https://imgur.com/a/NbsdQV6

[Hypernia]

Here is how I might re-do the list for both sides. In reality, it's hard to do a full tier list in this way because of the enforced 2-2-2 setup. You essentially need a tier list for each role, which is broadly how I tried to do my list:

Destruction

S Tier - Mandatory
2h Black Guard
Heal DoK

A Tier - Good in all group setups
2h BO
DPS DoK
Witch Elf
Marauder (Post changes? Wait and see)
Zealot

B Tier - Good in most group setups
2h Chosen
Melee SH
Choppa
Heal Shaman

C Tier - Situational
Sorceror
Magus
DPS Shaman
Range SH
SnB BO

D Tier - Bad
SnB BG or Chosen
DPS Zealot


Order

S Tier - Mandatory
2h Knight
Heal WP

A Tier - Good in all group setups
2h IB & SM
Slayer
White Lion
Assault SW
Runepriest

B Tier - Good in most group setups
WH
Heal AM
DPS AM (Destro lack of gap closers, puddle is v. strong v DPS DoK)

C Tier - Situational
Engi
BW
Grace WP

D Tier - Bad
SnB Knight
SnB SM
SnB IB
Range SW
DPS RP
DPS WP

[Orton14]

Here is how I might re-do the list for both sides. In reality, it's hard to do a full tier list in this way because of the enforced 2-2-2 setup. You essentially need a tier list for each role, which is broadly how I tried to do my list:

Destruction

S Tier - Mandatory
2h Black Guard
Heal DoK

A Tier - Good in all group setups
2h BO
DPS DoK
Witch Elf
Marauder (Post changes? Wait and see)
Zealot

B Tier - Good in most group setups
2h Chosen
Melee SH
Choppa
Heal Shaman

C Tier - Situational
Sorceror
Magus
DPS Shaman
Range SH
SnB BO

D Tier - Bad
SnB BG or Chosen
DPS Zealot


Order

S Tier - Mandatory
2h Knight
Heal WP

A Tier - Good in all group setups
2h IB & SM
Slayer
White Lion
Assault SW
Runepriest

B Tier - Good in most group setups
WH
Heal AM
DPS AM (Destro lack of gap closers, puddle is v. strong v DPS DoK)

C Tier - Situational
Engi
BW
Grace WP

D Tier - Bad
SnB Knight
SnB SM
SnB IB
Range SW
DPS RP
DPS WP

Thanks for your work mate, this list is only for the 6v6 Scenario, right? Do you know a link or anything else to a list for the whole rvr endgame?

[Hypernia]

I'm not super well versed for WB 24v24, but, here's a few thoughts.

Order AOE:
BW + WL are S Tier, Slayer is A Tier, WH and Engi and B Tier, SW is D Tier
2H KotBS is good, but you only want 1
SnB Knights + SMs are meta, IB is lower
AM is good for puddle / quick res / morale pump
Main healing should be WPs + RPs

Destro:
Has more options, pretty much all the DPS classes are viable in some way.
Mara + Choppa is S Tier, Sorc / MSH A Tier, WE & Magus B Tier, DPS DoK and Range SH are D Tier
Tanks ought to be SnB BO and Chosens for morale pumps, 1 2H Blackguard can be strong
Shammy is good for quick res, puddle, and morale pump
Zealot and DoK are best for main healing

Destro can do some mad **** with Sorcs / WEs / Shammy to pump everyone's morale to M2 super fast. Add in Mara to drain enemy morale and it's really strong.

[Ruscour]

Resurrecting this thread to see what people's thoughts are in the new Season 1 metagame.

Now that melee and ranged aren't competing for the same spots, how do the rDPS stack up against each other?

I had a few games carried by an rSH so I'm inclined to say it's pretty even (on Destro side at least), but I'm no expert.

[Wiede]

BO dps > BG dps? Wtf

BG is the most damage dealing tank just for the fact he ignores detaunts.