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thomas1995
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How to be effective as a low level in T2+ ?

Post#1 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:26 am

I'm a fresh lvl 18 WH and actually I don't know how to make my class or myself work in T2+.
I also don't know what needs to be done to be victorious ( appart taking the fort but what are the steps before that? )

In T1 what i did i solo ganking people that were scattered from their group, but now i find it really difficult to attack a lvl 40 while i'm lvl 18.

So a few questions ..
  • What can you do as a low lvl in T2+ ?
  • What is the most effective manner to gain Renown ranks and lvl up in RVR?
  • How do you manage to lvl to 40 and feel usefull?
  • What are the objectives ? Appart taking a fort or defending a fort ? What's the steps ?

I thank you very much !

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EsthelielSunfury
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Re: How to be effective as a low level in T2+ ?

Post#2 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:00 am

It's difficult because you aren't supposed to fight anyone above 29 in the first place, the PvP brackets don't make any sense here.

What I have learned so far about your first question is (or what people do here anyway):

1. Take supplies to your keep once the zone unlocks until it's at 2 stars, that seems to imply some sort of fortification to it in case of an attack.
2. Regroup in front of your keep with the zerg until someone, somehow spawns a ram. No one ever says how, I think only people at 40 know how to in this server. Escort the ram to their keep, siege and kill keep lord hopefully.

About the others :

I've learned to not even attempt to do anything outside of the zerg. Just don't bother, you won't do any kind of damage to 40s, and bolster is a myth parroted by people who I think have never played any other online PvP games who rely on balance. I assume that's a bit difficult as a WH (I think your class relies on stealth doesn't it?), so perhaps a gank group would be a choice still to cut their reinforcements.

The most effective manner I've found is sticking to a large warband and just doing your very best to gain contribution really. As a tank, it seems that holding the line and getting hit by everyone does the tricks, also doing AoE cleave before your death to tag as many enemies as possible for assists once they're dead, that seems to work just fine for me. As a healer it's much simpler, just place random HoTs on everyone, incredible renown for doing nothing. In your case, I assume it's difficult while you wait for the doors to go down, so perhaps postern fights might be an option.

I haven been to 40 yet, so not sure about your last two - but so far it seems, do RvR T2 -> T3 -> T4, then do city and repeat. Might be wrong, wait for someone who's played for longer I suppose.

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Re: How to be effective as a low level in T2+ ?

Post#3 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:03 am

Ever thought about playing sc? For solo ganking in t2-3 you need to be higher in rank. Or you play in a group.
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Re: How to be effective as a low level in T2+ ?

Post#4 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:23 am

EsthelielSunfury wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:00 am It's difficult because you aren't supposed to fight anyone above 29 in the first place, the PvP brackets don't make any sense here.

What I have learned so far about your first question is (or what people do here anyway):

1. Take supplies to your keep once the zone unlocks until it's at 2 stars, that seems to imply some sort of fortification to it in case of an attack.
2. Regroup in front of your keep with the zerg until someone, somehow spawns a ram. No one ever says how, I think only people at 40 know how to in this server. Escort the ram to their keep, siege and kill keep lord hopefully.

About the others :

I've learned to not even attempt to do anything outside of the zerg. Just don't bother, you won't do any kind of damage to 40s, and bolster is a myth parroted by people who I think have never played any other online PvP games who rely on balance. I assume that's a bit difficult as a WH (I think your class relies on stealth doesn't it?), so perhaps a gank group would be a choice still to cut their reinforcements.

The most effective manner I've found is sticking to a large warband and just doing your very best to gain contribution really. As a tank, it seems that holding the line and getting hit by everyone does the tricks, also doing AoE cleave before your death to tag as many enemies as possible for assists once they're dead, that seems to work just fine for me. As a healer it's much simpler, just place random HoTs on everyone, incredible renown for doing nothing. In your case, I assume it's difficult while you wait for the doors to go down, so perhaps postern fights might be an option.

I haven been to 40 yet, so not sure about your last two - but so far it seems, do RvR T2 -> T3 -> T4, then do city and repeat. Might be wrong, wait for someone who's played for longer I suppose.
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thomas1995
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Re: How to be effective as a low level in T2+ ?

Post#5 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:11 pm

Sulorie wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:03 am Ever thought about playing sc? For solo ganking in t2-3 you need to be higher in rank. Or you play in a group.
Well, I do SC to level fast, but for renown ranks and currencies, we need to do RVR right? Especially on a WH, the SC set is defensive and is not revolved around damage..

But I might do that if i have no choice, Since being a fresh lvl 19 ( levelled up :) ) is not efficient in soloing anyone..

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Re: How to be effective as a low level in T2+ ?

Post#6 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:28 pm

thomas1995 wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:11 pm
Sulorie wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:03 am Ever thought about playing sc? For solo ganking in t2-3 you need to be higher in rank. Or you play in a group.
Well, I do SC to level fast, but for renown ranks and currencies, we need to do RVR right? Especially on a WH, the SC set is defensive and is not revolved around damage..

But I might do that if i have no choice, Since being a fresh lvl 19 ( levelled up :) ) is not efficient in soloing anyone..
It's enough to do rvr as long as you need to get the currency for the set. The T2 set you should buy alone by converting up T1 currency, when you did a lot rvr in T1. The pieces are rather cheap. Or you go with the T2 dungeon set and get a full item set (5 pieces) this way, which is often even better than rvr/sc sets (3 pieces).

For renown ranks, you can fully go with scenarios. To keep high xp gains in check, you can add -xp scroll. Running through rvr in a warband gives less xp/rp.
At low lvl you are not supposed to solo anyone. You help killing ppl. The better your gear is for your rank, you could even deal most dmg to a target and get the drops, even if others finish the enemy.

To get T3 rvr set on WL I noticed, that killing ppl lower than me (lvl28) gives much more xp than killing r40s and I already used -xp scroll. It's like killing 20s gives above 100k xp, while 40s give like 30k xp and significantly more renown.
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Re: How to be effective as a low level in T2+ ?

Post#7 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:21 pm

thomas1995 wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:11 pm
Sulorie wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:03 am Ever thought about playing sc? For solo ganking in t2-3 you need to be higher in rank. Or you play in a group.
Well, I do SC to level fast, but for renown ranks and currencies, we need to do RVR right? Especially on a WH, the SC set is defensive and is not revolved around damage..

But I might do that if i have no choice, Since being a fresh lvl 19 ( levelled up :) ) is not efficient in soloing anyone..
Group up with other/others WH => yesterday i was ganked by a 3 WH grp (not sure if the 3 were under 40). But was nearly instakilled....if you get a good AAO bonus could get a chunk of RR/exp/inf doing this.

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Re: How to be effective as a low level in T2+ ?

Post#8 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:47 pm

So it really depends on your class to be honest. As a witch elf, yea you aren't going to be 1v1ing anyone higher level than you who isn't afk for a very long time. In fact, some of the 40s you find you will never be able to kill 1v1, no matter if you were RR100 or not.

So you won't be successful in solo roaming in ORvR searching for stealth kills. You may occasionally find someone around your level or who is afk to kill, but that's gonna be slow going.

Your best bet is for now, Scenarios. The max level of people you will fight is 39, and while you will get owned, it's at least in the realm of "you have a chance to fight back" unlike trying to gank 40s. If you want to ORvR, you are going to want to join a warband and leech RP/XP, or find some other solo roamers, theres a chance 3-4 low witch elves may kill some 40s who aren't prepared for it/have aoe.

Back to scenarios - since this is your most level playing field. You are still going to be pretty terrible until your mid-late 20s. The best bet I can say for now is to play like an annoying fly. You are unlikely to kill a lot of anything, so make sure you are just pestering healers/ranged when possible. The other thing you can do is be the "objective monkey", and make sure to play objectives over fighting (capping points, flags, etc..), this can be a great way to get wins for your teams by your own individual contribution, which is exactly what will get you the XP needed to level up and be able to fight.

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Re: How to be effective as a low level in T2+ ?

Post#9 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:15 pm

Learn to make talis/pots, they are as important as how good your gear is.

thomas1995
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Re: How to be effective as a low level in T2+ ?

Post#10 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:14 am

empmoz wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:15 pm Learn to make talis/pots, they are as important as how good your gear is.
How do you make Talis / Pots?
I need to do some professions, I have ignored it too long I think

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