What is a ranged shadow warriors role meant to be exactly?

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What is a ranged shadow warriors role meant to be exactly?

Post#1 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:55 am

It seems clear that the role of a ranged glass cannon is not to kill people judging by the string of recent nerfs. Even before changes the skirmish spec was fun and semmmmmi-viable. Now we have 2 lines which seem to accomplish nothing in particular.

- Skirmish spends a long amount of time at close range (65 feet) applying dots, which makes it a piss weak version of an engineer with half the range.
- Scout after all the nerfs is now unable to kill anything that isnt extremely glass or undergeared, god forbid they have a healer or a guard you may as well not bother shooting.

I am happy to admit at the height of the changes the class was overpowered and needed tuning, but devs you need to remember this is a class with no escape (whirling pin LOL), no self sustain, and has to build quite fragile in order to actually do damage.

If a glass ranged class cannot do damage and has no meaningful role to play in a group, what is the point of the class existing?

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Re: What is a ranged shadow warriors role meant to be exactly?

Post#2 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:58 am

65ft range on skirm is a real bummer. Also i would have simply buffed bha instead of making it stack. The class already had enough dots to stack before the changes to get a "rotation" rolling. Now youre stuck at a small range and cant even use a glass arrow to reduce the attackers range :/
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Re: What is a ranged shadow warriors role meant to be exactly?

Post#3 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:47 am

Broken Class............

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Post#4 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:57 am

What exactly is the thinking behind the bha change. Any mmo that uses this dot type does it do you can refresh 3x dots at once but its done by having the dot ticks on the gcd. So you dont use 3 gcd applying without a tic and clipping the dot before the last tic still gets that tic. War isnt made for this type of dot unless you intent to change to how these other mmos handle dots.
Feels like the devs just looked at an ability from another mmo and stuck it in without thinking that wars systems are old.

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Re: What is a ranged shadow warriors role meant to be exactly?

Post#5 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:09 am

I think the SW changes can be summed up by looking at one thing, the unchanged r4 morale in scout, which does LESS damage than the BASE r4, and takes twice the time to do it.....lol

FEAR THE MASSIVE 2190 AOE OVER TEN SECONDS. (HUGE 20 FOOT RADIUS)

complete lack of attention to detail overall, just revert everything and start again.

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Re: What is a ranged shadow warriors role meant to be exactly?

Post#6 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:10 am

Someone should feed destro those sweet rp and kills.

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Post#7 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:18 am

You guys should realize SW is in testing phase. Give proper feedback instead of QQing.

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Re: What is a ranged shadow warriors role meant to be exactly?

Post#8 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:04 am

jaxamillian wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:09 am just revert everything and start again.
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Re: What is a ranged shadow warriors role meant to be exactly?

Post#9 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:12 am

jaxamillian wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:55 am- Scout after all the nerfs is now unable to kill anything that isnt extremely glass or undergeared, god forbid they have a healer or a guard you may as well not bother shooting.
What happens when you try /assist-ing people in your group? Are you trying to solo people in parties?
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Re: What is a ranged shadow warriors role meant to be exactly?

Post#10 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:33 pm

jaxamillian wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:09 am I think the SW changes can be summed up by looking at one thing, the unchanged r4 morale in scout, which does LESS damage than the BASE r4, and takes twice the time to do it.....lol

FEAR THE MASSIVE 2190 AOE OVER TEN SECONDS. (HUGE 20 FOOT RADIUS)

complete lack of attention to detail overall, just revert everything and start again.
We haven't touched morales because the rest of the classes also have pretty bad spec morales. That's a whole different project.

Keep yelling into the wind with the "revert everything". That's not going to happen. Better to make some constructive comments on what can reasonably change with the direction we're moving in.
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