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Detangler
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Re: City Winner History?

Post#611 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:50 am

Congrats. You named things that are not mirrored in a game that doesn't have direct mirrors. Thats kinda what this game has aways been about. That road runs both ways. But go on and keep ignoring the Order players that have posted on this very thread that have no issue competing in cities cause they are organized and bring actual balanced warbands. Whatever helps you feel better after your solo queue loss.
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tefnaht
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Re: City Winner History?

Post#612 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:31 am

Anaerion22 wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:17 am

Imbalance of class distribution
https://ibb.co/xzHxyhn
https://ibb.co/YXpdNHm
https://ibb.co/BK5Tc9p
https://ibb.co/WGHBbmC

40+ chars online after ~25min from city start, 3% diff between melee/tank in order/destro, and some meta crap in order careers spread...

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Ramlaen
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Re: City Winner History?

Post#613 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:27 am

tefnaht wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:31 am
Anaerion22 wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:17 am

Imbalance of class distribution
https://ibb.co/xzHxyhn
https://ibb.co/YXpdNHm
https://ibb.co/BK5Tc9p
https://ibb.co/WGHBbmC

40+ chars online after ~25min from city start, 3% diff between melee/tank in order/destro, and some meta crap in order careers spread...
So much for the claim that Order plays more ranged DPS than Destro...
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Mordd
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Re: City Winner History?

Post#614 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:30 am

Detangler wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:14 am
Anaerion22 wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:17 am

Essentially from what I've gathered, supposedly it's predominantly a problem of Organization on Order. Imbalance of class distribution, and lack of dedicated Guilds and groups organizing competitive premades meeting Destro groups that don't have that problem.
Can we just repost this to the front page of this thread and lock this nonsense whining thread already? Anyone who thinks there's some massive imbalance between the two when both sides run meta is just delusional, and this quote is the perfect summation of the thread.
OMG 2 destro said it, it must be true.....not at all.

tefnaht
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Re: City Winner History?

Post#615 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:41 am

Ramlaen wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:27 am
tefnaht wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:31 am
Anaerion22 wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:17 am

Imbalance of class distribution
https://ibb.co/xzHxyhn
https://ibb.co/YXpdNHm
https://ibb.co/BK5Tc9p
https://ibb.co/WGHBbmC

40+ chars online after ~25min from city start, 3% diff between melee/tank in order/destro, and some meta crap in order careers spread...
So much for the claim that Order plays more ranged DPS than Destro...
Ok, 17,1% on order against 18,4% on destro - "Order plays more ranged", brilliant math skills.

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Naelar
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Re: City Winner History?

Post#616 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:44 am

gurtuk wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:41 pm
jvlosky wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:22 pm
gurtuk wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:02 pm
This thread gets a lot of attention right before or right after a city, but it's always the same nonsense.
Yeah.... Destro winning lmao

I don't see this changing ever. Destro def has the advantage, numbers and statistics don't lie. But hey just keep going with the 'omg you guys need to get more organized and git gud' logic lmaooo
It has everything to do with being organised and coordinated, some order warbands almost never lose city's. you know why? because they're good. order loses a lot because they just aren't coordinated, very mindless. then they come here and complain. don't blame anyone but yourself.
100% true. My guild got a 12 man together the other night for IC. When we queued, we gave our discord info to the warband. Zero of them joined.
Zero.

There were 12 of us running as a unit and 12 mostly doing their own thing.

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Krulgu
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Re: City Winner History?

Post#617 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:51 am

that's funny is class repartition, KOTBS and WP ratio is ....... awesome.... perhaps that's mean something no ??

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Charon
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Re: City Winner History?

Post#618 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:01 am

Spoiler:
mytreds wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:37 am
slattie wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:45 am
Detangler wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:14 am


Can we just repost this to the front page of this thread and lock this nonsense whining thread already? Anyone who thinks there's some massive imbalance between the two when both sides run meta is just delusional, and this quote is the perfect summation of the thread.
heya here's 5 reasons that make me delusional.

1. gtdc
2. mouth of tzench(sp?)
4. mara monstrosity resisting armor pen
5. bo waaagh
6. mara aoe kd
7. wl aoe interrupt
8. windblock & zealot self morale pump
10. gtdc bug doesn't apply immunity
11. magus dmg type vs engi dmg type
12. squiggie utility belly bounce 8s cd aoe
13. squiggie barf
14. squig charge
15. am heals vs sham heals

i got carried away, there's 14 reasons destro should generally win vs an equally organized group order grp
I could add 14 alone on Knight vs Chosen, I can't imagine how many it would be if you actually faithfully compared the mirrors.
i will say 14 in this way. Generaly - differences between des and order tanks. Just watch Acidic viewtopic.php?f=54&t=27979&p=429938#p429938 pnp city videos. Non of order tanks can play like that with the same effectiveness. Its not only that order tanks dont have real skills to spam aoe Dmg like Chosen Rending Blade and BO Waaaagh or Da Big Un. Generaly if you guard msh or maruder both are tanky enough to alow des tank take 2h and play more ofensively. Try that with Sl or aoe BW. And now ask your self why BO is best and most fun tank in the game
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Likeaboss
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Re: City Winner History?

Post#619 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:02 am

Spoiler:
tefnaht wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:31 am
Anaerion22 wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:17 am

Imbalance of class distribution
https://ibb.co/xzHxyhn
https://ibb.co/YXpdNHm
https://ibb.co/BK5Tc9p
https://ibb.co/WGHBbmC

40+ chars online after ~25min from city start, 3% diff between melee/tank in order/destro, and some meta crap in order careers spread...
As there is no room for "Order plays to much Rdps" complains anymore (+/-3% :P ), i have a little Question...

In Advance, i didnt have much online time last few days, the last city siege is was online, ended 21:3.
Logged in a little to late, the Que already closed... So i didnt get farmed at least :lol:

Are there really people arround, telling that this 87.5% winrate (this rate does not refer to the average, just to this 21:3 city)
only comes from Destros beeing more organized? :lol:

Or could it be that Pug vs Pug, the meele deathball of Destro with AoE pull, AoE KD and AoE Cooldown increaser by the flying Testicle
is just so easy to play it DOESN'T require any communication?

Spoiler alert, it's definitely Orders fault ;)

tefnaht
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Re: City Winner History?

Post#620 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:12 am

Krulgu wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:51 am
that's funny is class repartition, KOTBS and WP ratio is ....... awesome.... perhaps that's mean something no ??
It's "city meta" in numbers, funny thing - some order relog on city from "non-meta" to "meta" careers(destro have same trend with lower scale), just not every one have 40cr "meta" character on acc. Order have less "meta" careers and it's ofc a "player based" problem, not a balance issue at all.

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