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Re: RSH Underperforming

Post#11 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:17 pm

Jabba wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:55 pm
rSH also aren't underperforming unless you're trying to play them as aoe, which they're not meant to be played as. They have the melee spec for that.
I am not, don't mind of that exploding arrer
The real question is, with same gear and rr than him, while having the time to use all my gcd debuff rotation on my target, in the end, can i get to the same or even more amount of dmg output in this time frame than him ?
This, is why i've made this topic, to point this out, nothing else

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Onigokko0101
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Re: RSH Underperforming

Post#12 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:22 pm

Sulorie wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:15 pm
With such low init stat, his init debuff will skyrocket your chance to be crit.
He used 3 gcd to stack dots on you. One healer would use 1 gcd to remove all of them.

With 3x bal bonus and no other setbonus, that SW goes full ghetto glass cannon mode.
When he sees you first, bad luck.
One more reason for you to not roam solo without heal.
What? What magical GCD can remove more then one debuff at a time?

3x Broadhead requires 3x cleanse
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Re: RSH Underperforming

Post#13 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:12 pm

Onigokko0101 wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:22 pm
Sulorie wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:15 pm
With such low init stat, his init debuff will skyrocket your chance to be crit.
He used 3 gcd to stack dots on you. One healer would use 1 gcd to remove all of them.

With 3x bal bonus and no other setbonus, that SW goes full ghetto glass cannon mode.
When he sees you first, bad luck.
One more reason for you to not roam solo without heal.
What? What magical GCD can remove more then one debuff at a time?

3x Broadhead requires 3x cleanse
Someone told you, or did you ever played a healer?
Dying is no option.

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Koha
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Re: RSH Underperforming

Post#14 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:26 pm

Detaunt
Disarm
M1
Pots + eat sguig

So many tools SH is not defenseless.
My SH is only 60+ but I never felt like underpowered. I hope the future rework does not brake this jake of all trades.

NB: 3 stacks of the same debuff is removed by only one cleanse...
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MoltenCoreMoshpit
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Re: RSH Underperforming

Post#15 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:44 pm

I've always thought of a range class as being best with their team to protect him, I doubt they are balanced at all around 1v1

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Re: RSH Underperforming

Post#16 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:47 pm

Onigokko0101 wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:22 pm
Sulorie wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:15 pm
With such low init stat, his init debuff will skyrocket your chance to be crit.
He used 3 gcd to stack dots on you. One healer would use 1 gcd to remove all of them.

With 3x bal bonus and no other setbonus, that SW goes full ghetto glass cannon mode.
When he sees you first, bad luck.
One more reason for you to not roam solo without heal.
What? What magical GCD can remove more then one debuff at a time?

3x Broadhead requires 3x cleanse
Ya...Nah

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Onigokko0101
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Re: RSH Underperforming

Post#17 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:23 am

Sulorie wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:12 pm
Onigokko0101 wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:22 pm
Sulorie wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:15 pm
With such low init stat, his init debuff will skyrocket your chance to be crit.
He used 3 gcd to stack dots on you. One healer would use 1 gcd to remove all of them.

With 3x bal bonus and no other setbonus, that SW goes full ghetto glass cannon mode.
When he sees you first, bad luck.
One more reason for you to not roam solo without heal.
What? What magical GCD can remove more then one debuff at a time?

3x Broadhead requires 3x cleanse
Someone told you, or did you ever played a healer?
Purify- Requires righteous fury: Your purify an ally, removing ONE curse or Hex. Has a tactic that can make it groupwide AoE, still only removes one effect per target.

Glimpse of Chaos: You call upon the power of chaos, removing ONE Curse or Hex from your target.

Patch Wounds: You patch an ally's wounds removing ONE Ailment or Hex

I could keep going on but I am sure that its obvious by now.

The only way to remove all the debuffs is a Morale.
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Sulorie
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Re: RSH Underperforming

Post#18 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:32 am

Onigokko0101 wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:23 am


Purify- Requires righteous fury: Your purify an ally, removing ONE curse or Hex. Has a tactic that can make it groupwide AoE, still only removes one effect per target.

Glimpse of Chaos: You call upon the power of chaos, removing ONE Curse or Hex from your target.

Patch Wounds: You patch an ally's wounds removing ONE Ailment or Hex

I could keep going on but I am sure that its obvious by now.

The only way to remove all the debuffs is a Morale.
I guess then you just never played a healer and have no idea about removing debuffs. No problem, I help you.
When you stack a debuff, you will notice a debuff icon with up to x3 written on said icon. This means you used the same debuff 3 times. If there are e.g. 2 SW, you could have 2 debuffs on the target and most likely stack them as well. Each triple stack of debuffs per player counts as one , when it comes to cleansing.

I hope this helped you!
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Arthem
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Re: RSH Underperforming

Post#19 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:49 am

Be careful what you wish for regarding rSH buffs. Do you want to lose your shootin wif da wind and only have 1 range dot in the future turning your class into an Engy, range nuke andy?

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Re: RSH Underperforming

Post#20 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:00 am

I like how we have people arguing that rsh doesn't need changes when devs already came out and said they are looking at changing/buffing the class months ago because it underperforms.
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