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mathousalix6
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Re: Open RvR misery

Post#21 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:11 pm

Rapzel wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:19 pm
mathousalix6 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:49 pm
Spoiler:
Rapzel wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:35 pm


You have the freedom to join a PUG sc, if you meet a premade in PUG sc you can report them to a GM, AFAIK people have at least temp banned for abusing the system.
You do have access to this magical fun and PUGGY PUG scenario, magical right?



It changes once every month AFAIK, you're allowed to vote for another one.
Here you go, tomorrow seems to be Caledor Woods, one of the best.
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You can find the contradicting points for the existence of only one pug scenario in the other thread, I don't want to repeat things. But here I have to repeat that there was no point on making this ironic thread, you could peacefully comment on the other one. But your intentions are to discourage people and newcomers to the game and not talk seriously I guess. I am not the only one having this problem as you have already seen in the last few months!
No my point with the thread was to point out how absurd your original question is and that the validity of the question of why full sov premade groups/wbs play ORvR is just as valid as your question about why the play SCs, as they have nothing to gain from neither.
Then in this thread you drop knowledge bombs such as
mathousalix6 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:49 pm
In RVR I have the FREEDOM to be solo or join a PUG warband and still get decent contribution by doing what I like. As for scenarios I am doomed to suffer unless I decide to group up.
You have the FREEDOM to join as a solo for SC or a PUG sc group (there exists a /5 and it's used frequently during the weekends), the event SC the last few weeks has only required ONE 500 point win. Why is it fine to join a PUG wb but not a PUG group?
mathousalix6 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:49 pm
That means I am going to face both organized warbands and unorganized low-geared people and still have fun. Magical right?
You are going to meet pretty much the exact same people you meet in ORvR as you're going to meet in SCs because that's how low the population in this game is, magical right?

In your own thread you start bringing up certain careers that are not "Meta" and there for will not be brought to premades, and I'll agree rift engi won't probably ever be brought into ranked 6vs6 unless someone is meme'ing, but in ranked 6vs6 (notice I don't write solo ranked) I've played against every single career, because you know what?
You can respec into a path intended for Scenarios, there's several streamers that play or have played non meta careers (Goriy are you okay?) that still have found groups for SCs, and they've done just fine, so stop playing the victim card.
Every time someone posts this thread the same solutions are presented, you get the same answer from devs that they want to incentivize group play.

The best part is that there is very few premade 6 mans running during the weeks and weekends, most of the 6 man premade groups know each other well, and at least 60-70% of the so called premades that get called out are not premades, it's just better players on the other team.
I am admitting I have been wrong to some extent as I didn't know the existence of a pug only scenario. However, based on the opinion of other players that experienced the same frustration with me (and they are many many many) I still feel there is a problem. As suggested in the other thread, a pug event only scenario could be tested to the game. This way new and unexperienced players or players who just can't group up for their own reasons would not feel rejected and discouraged.

Also, even the most amazing and viable respec for example as a SW, would do a "hole in the water" against the meta played by destro. You have to be very lucky or face a not so experienced group to win with such classes.

As for your pug wb vs pug group point. Joining a pug wb will have an almost zero effect on the final result as the population is far greater and organized wbs already exist... Both realms in ORVR have pugs and organized wbs. That makes the fights equal in contrast with the scenarios.

What angered me the most in this post is the way you decided to talk and communicate for something I find serious or don't understand. You could easily say all these things that you have just told in my original thread in a polite way.There was no need for this post and I found it very disrespectful not only towards me but to every newcomer in the game.

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Re: Open RvR misery

Post#22 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:33 pm

mathousalix6 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:11 pm
I am admitting I have been wrong to some extent as I didn't know the existence of a pug only scenario.
Don't worry, you can easily trick your way in with a premade. In practise, there is no "pug only" scenario.

emiliorv
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Re: Open RvR misery

Post#23 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:37 pm

mathousalix6 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:11 pm
I am admitting I have been wrong to some extent as I didn't know the existence of a pug only scenario.
LMAO


mathousalix6 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:11 pm
What angered me the most in this post is the way you decided to talk and communicate for something I find serious or don't understand. You could easily say all these things that you have just told in my original thread in a polite way.There was no need for this post and I found it very disrespectful not only towards me but to every newcomer in the game.
This is probably because you are the 616489410+65+952+6 player posting the same kind of thread.
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mathousalix6
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Re: Open RvR misery

Post#24 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:42 pm

emiliorv wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:37 pm
mathousalix6 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:11 pm
I am admitting I have been wrong to some extent as I didn't know the existence of a pug only scenario.
LMAO


Why is this funny for you? :P

Rapzel
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Re: Open RvR misery

Post#25 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:53 pm

blondgelockt wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:33 pm
mathousalix6 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:11 pm
I am admitting I have been wrong to some extent as I didn't know the existence of a pug only scenario.
Don't worry, you can easily trick your way in with a premade. In practise, there is no "pug only" scenario.
This falls under exploits AFAIK and GMs have taken serious actions against it.

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Re: Open RvR misery

Post#26 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:24 pm

emiliorv wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:37 pm
mathousalix6 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:11 pm
I am admitting I have been wrong to some extent as I didn't know the existence of a pug only scenario.
LMAO


mathousalix6 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:11 pm
What angered me the most in this post is the way you decided to talk and communicate for something I find serious or don't understand. You could easily say all these things that you have just told in my original thread in a polite way.There was no need for this post and I found it very disrespectful not only towards me but to every newcomer in the game.
This is probably because you are the 616489410+65+952+6 player posting the same kind of thread.
Ah yes, he's a new guy, gotta make fun of him / make a whole post bout him. That's the positive and warm welcome this community gives out to new players +1.
What's wrong with u?

JarlBerzirk
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Re: Open RvR misery

Post#27 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:08 pm

A troll thread getting 3 pages of comments is hilarious.

Rapzel
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Re: Open RvR misery

Post#28 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:11 pm

mathousalix6 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:11 pm
Also, even the most amazing and viable respec for example as a SW, would do a "hole in the water" against the meta played by destro. You have to be very lucky or face a not so experienced group to win with such classes.
assault does fine, there's even a very active whine thread about them and mSH right now.
I played solo aSW for 2 years and pretty much aSW for 3 years in total, the career is fine.
mathousalix6 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:11 pm
As for your pug wb vs pug group point. Joining a pug wb will have an almost zero effect on the final result as the population is far greater and organized wbs already exist... Both realms in ORVR have pugs and organized wbs. That makes the fights equal in contrast with the scenarios.
There's premades on both sides in the event SCs, the issue is that for newer players in SCs they lack deeper knowledge of the game, the BFB weekend that was around the 20th of Nov, me and a guild mate set up a pug group (no discord just assist train pretty much) to run the event SC.
We ran into two other premades during this whole time, we played a 6vs6 BFB for the first 3-4 mins and were up 100+ points vs. 0, until the pugs started to trickle in where we got smashed because our pugs were worse players, resulting that some of our solo-stars started to blame us for being "****".
Apparently it was our fault that a melee specced BW runs in and dies over and over again.
Out of the 10 games we played we ran into a destro premade 3-4 times, and it was a 50/50 chance we won.

I understand that it might feel bad to run into a premade as a solo player, but it happens and all you can do is play your best and if they stomp your team, look at them and what they're doing.
ORvR feels "good and balanced" because it's everything but fair, it's just a open sandbox for people to beat on each other, no skill required.

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Re: Open RvR misery

Post#29 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:15 pm

I thought this was supposed to be a troll thread? Why did it devolve into serious conversation?
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Re: Open RvR misery

Post#30 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:00 pm

Twyxx wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:15 pm
I thought this was supposed to be a troll thread? Why did it devolve into serious conversation?
Stop being Toxic. :evil:

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