I am admitting I have been wrong to some extent as I didn't know the existence of a pug only scenario. However, based on the opinion of other players that experienced the same frustration with me (and they are many many many) I still feel there is a problem. As suggested in the other thread, a pug event only scenario could be tested to the game. This way new and unexperienced players or players who just can't group up for their own reasons would not feel rejected and discouraged.Rapzel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:19 pmNo my point with the thread was to point out how absurd your original question is and that the validity of the question of why full sov premade groups/wbs play ORvR is just as valid as your question about why the play SCs, as they have nothing to gain from neither.mathousalix6 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:49 pmYou can find the contradicting points for the existence of only one pug scenario in the other thread, I don't want to repeat things. But here I have to repeat that there was no point on making this ironic thread, you could peacefully comment on the other one. But your intentions are to discourage people and newcomers to the game and not talk seriously I guess. I am not the only one having this problem as you have already seen in the last few months!Spoiler:
Then in this thread you drop knowledge bombs such asYou have the FREEDOM to join as a solo for SC or a PUG sc group (there exists a /5 and it's used frequently during the weekends), the event SC the last few weeks has only required ONE 500 point win. Why is it fine to join a PUG wb but not a PUG group?mathousalix6 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:49 pm In RVR I have the FREEDOM to be solo or join a PUG warband and still get decent contribution by doing what I like. As for scenarios I am doomed to suffer unless I decide to group up.
You are going to meet pretty much the exact same people you meet in ORvR as you're going to meet in SCs because that's how low the population in this game is, magical right?mathousalix6 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:49 pm That means I am going to face both organized warbands and unorganized low-geared people and still have fun. Magical right?
In your own thread you start bringing up certain careers that are not "Meta" and there for will not be brought to premades, and I'll agree rift engi won't probably ever be brought into ranked 6vs6 unless someone is meme'ing, but in ranked 6vs6 (notice I don't write solo ranked) I've played against every single career, because you know what?
You can respec into a path intended for Scenarios, there's several streamers that play or have played non meta careers (Goriy are you okay?) that still have found groups for SCs, and they've done just fine, so stop playing the victim card.
Every time someone posts this thread the same solutions are presented, you get the same answer from devs that they want to incentivize group play.
The best part is that there is very few premade 6 mans running during the weeks and weekends, most of the 6 man premade groups know each other well, and at least 60-70% of the so called premades that get called out are not premades, it's just better players on the other team.
Also, even the most amazing and viable respec for example as a SW, would do a "hole in the water" against the meta played by destro. You have to be very lucky or face a not so experienced group to win with such classes.
As for your pug wb vs pug group point. Joining a pug wb will have an almost zero effect on the final result as the population is far greater and organized wbs already exist... Both realms in ORVR have pugs and organized wbs. That makes the fights equal in contrast with the scenarios.
What angered me the most in this post is the way you decided to talk and communicate for something I find serious or don't understand. You could easily say all these things that you have just told in my original thread in a polite way.There was no need for this post and I found it very disrespectful not only towards me but to every newcomer in the game.