Agreed imo ranged classes main specc should be rangedHardkoar wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:49 pmWhy not? Both of these ''ranged'' classes outperform melee classes that can only be melee classes.Pandastyle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:36 pm Could you please find a way to balance the melee spec for the Shadow Warrior?
It is common knowledge by now that the class is just simply over performing and this was obviously not the intended path for a healthy balance.
Before moving to the next class changes, do pay attention to this broken one.
The MSH is just over the top because it manages to do it AOE.
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wise advicePandastyle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:51 pmAgreed imo ranged classes main specc should be rangedHardkoar wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:49 pmWhy not? Both of these ''ranged'' classes outperform melee classes that can only be melee classes.Pandastyle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:36 pm Could you please find a way to balance the melee spec for the Shadow Warrior?
It is common knowledge by now that the class is just simply over performing and this was obviously not the intended path for a healthy balance.
Before moving to the next class changes, do pay attention to this broken one.
The MSH is just over the top because it manages to do it AOE.
MA Kirth BG Melnibone SH Kikass
WH Merci SM Kohagen SL Koagul
WH Merci SM Kohagen SL Koagul
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MSH is really broken. SH has now kinda 4 mastery trees. It seems that Path of Guardian and Hunter went into Path of Bounchin. The class (and maybe aSW) is an affront to any real mdps class.
The MSH is overall with all the utilities a better WL now. After WL burst nerfs it has same maybe better burst and for sure better sustained damage and can do range as well. And if bored you can always spec into range.
I have seen Zabrix twitch video and I was speechless. Wonder what he is thinking.
The MSH is overall with all the utilities a better WL now. After WL burst nerfs it has same maybe better burst and for sure better sustained damage and can do range as well. And if bored you can always spec into range.
I have seen Zabrix twitch video and I was speechless. Wonder what he is thinking.
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No one disagrees with some of your points, but the MSH is at the top of that list currently and it needs to be brought back down to earth.
The only thing that he is missing is a party heal and it will replace DOk's too. There is no scenario where you'd want to roll any other melee dps as the MSH outshines everything and everyone, and it does it AOE.
A balanced game makes the game entertaining for everyone, not only the ones playing the broken class.
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Can you state what suddenly made MSH a broken class ? I mean what I see in recent patch notes is simply nerfs - sneaky strike gone- don't hit me gone . Only good point for MSH there is Horned Squig has 900 armor debuff now. If that makes a class broken WL has been broken for years now.
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The log below says it all, im a WE 5 sov/ 3 victorius - Futile Strike 3 = -17 reduction crit rate
Kelan is a 5 walord / 3 sent mSW
Ok ok, many will say balance its not torward 1v1 situations...but the log below translate easily to Scenarios, 6v6, rankeds etc.
The assault istance its completly broken atm.. the bonus for Parry strikethrough + parry + 65% + on AA dmg is beyond OP, crit, meele power.. Its free bonuses all over + whatever they get from sets, weapons, rr
Fight a decent player like Kelan and its so easy to notice that something is way off.
Tier list for mdps in order side (ranked and scenarios wise)
S - mSW
A - Slayer
B - WL / mWP
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D -
E - WH
The log below says it all, im a WE 5 sov/ 3 victorius - Futile Strike 3 = -17 reduction crit rate
Kelan is a 5 walord / 3 sent mSW
Ok ok, many will say balance its not torward 1v1 situations...but the log below translate easily to Scenarios, 6v6, rankeds etc.
The assault istance its completly broken atm.. the bonus for Parry strikethrough + parry + 65% + on AA dmg is beyond OP, crit, meele power.. Its free bonuses all over + whatever they get from sets, weapons, rr
Fight a decent player like Kelan and its so easy to notice that something is way off.
Tier list for mdps in order side (ranked and scenarios wise)
S - mSW
A - Slayer
B - WL / mWP
C -
D -
E - WH
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Maybe try a spec that is not complete and utter garbage?Krima wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:27 pm mSW
The log below says it all, im a WE 5 sov/ 3 victorius - Futile Strike 3 = -17 reduction crit rate
Kelan is a 5 walord / 3 sent mSW
Ok ok, many will say balance its not torward 1v1 situations...but the log below translate easily to Scenarios, 6v6, rankeds etc.
The assault istance its completly broken atm.. the bonus for Parry strikethrough + parry + 65% + on AA dmg is beyond OP, crit, meele power.. Its free bonuses all over + whatever they get from sets, weapons, rr
Fight a decent player like Kelan and its so easy to notice that something is way off.
Tier list for mdps in order side (ranked and scenarios wise)
S - mSW
A - Slayer
B - WL / mWP
C -
D -
E - WH
You're playing the same way against every career instead of adapting to the career you're up against.
Carnage sucks against high armor targets always has done, it's a no brain leveling build.
SW doesn't not win a 1vs1 Vs a WE with any skill, because you have a 3 sec KD with big damage AW spam that ignores the SWs armor.
And god forbid that a spec or a career has a weakness.
mWP above WH?
aSW above slayer?
Really?
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