BW damage feels underwhelming

[ScumFM]

It's not unreasonable to feel that BW is doing sub-par damage, especially considering the drawbacks. The backlash mechanic is harsh, with 750 undefendable, unmitigatable damage done to the caster. It seems to me Magus/Engi and dps AM/Sham can do similar ST burst to the BW/Sorc and they do not have to eat the damage equivalent of an m4 to do that.

Now that the dummies report burst damage, it should be easier to compare the classes in that regard.

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I've had BWs hit me up to 2.8k crits.. whatchumean

Timestamps take at least a few seconds to prepare and being able to freecast. You can see it coming and prevent.

You mean like the dps shaman burst rotation that requires 3 dots and a 2 sec cast prior to the channeled ability?

[wonshot]

Well mostly because i got curious to see the timestamp burst on Costructs, since someone posted a high number in the Meatball topic, i did 3 timestamps on the constuct and then for absolute meme value tested what a pure RoF would look like.

Knock yourselves out with this if we are aiming for 10pages.
https://imgur.com/a/OA2wzlN

#edit: done in same gear as the pve-dummy built, 4ons, 4 offensive sove. (usually use 6sove,2sent,2vanq for scs)

[Toggle]

Well mostly because i got curious to see the timestamp burst on Costructs, since someone posted a high number in the Meatball topic, i did 3 timestamps on the constuct and then for absolute meme value tested what a pure RoF would look like.

Knock yourselves out with this if we are aiming for 10pages.
https://imgur.com/a/OA2wzlN

You’re full sov, correct? I want to test out dps shammy when I get home today. Just want an idea of the difference I will be looking at gear wise. Thanks!

[lyncher12]

if anything BW needs a NERF. 1 in 2 players on order are a bw or have a bw and they all do the same shitty thing of spamming rof (which stacks) and are fine getting 3 invader from a fort because they are too garbage to function in city.

[rodomeier]

if anything BW needs a NERF. 1 in 2 players on order are a bw or have a bw and they all do the same shitty thing of spamming rof (which stacks) and are fine getting 3 invader from a fort because they are too garbage to function in city.

My sensors detect salt on your feedback

[paperclipdog]

Well mostly because i got curious to see the timestamp burst on Costructs, since someone posted a high number in the Meatball topic, i did 3 timestamps on the constuct and then for absolute meme value tested what a pure RoF would look like.

Knock yourselves out with this if we are aiming for 10pages.
https://imgur.com/a/OA2wzlN

#edit: done in same gear as the pve-dummy built, 4ons, 4 offensive sove. (usually use 6sove,2sent,2vanq for scs)

Could you elaborate on the conditions of that test? I can reach way higher timestamps on my magus with a snipe rotation at max range but it's really unrealistic to ever get that off except from walls.
Rotations that I can reasonably pull off have significantly lower 3s Burst than what you show in your screenshot.

[wonshot]

Well mostly because i got curious to see the timestamp burst on Costructs, since someone posted a high number in the Meatball topic, i did 3 timestamps on the constuct and then for absolute meme value tested what a pure RoF would look like.

Knock yourselves out with this if we are aiming for 10pages.
https://imgur.com/a/OA2wzlN

#edit: done in same gear as the pve-dummy built, 4ons, 4 offensive sove. (usually use 6sove,2sent,2vanq for scs)

Could you elaborate on the conditions of that test? I can reach way higher timestamps on my magus with a snipe rotation but it's really unrealistic to ever get that off.
Rotations that I can reasonably pull off have significantly lower 3s Burst than what you show in your screenshot.

Alright, so on my first screenshot in the other topic about record for killing the construct asap I made a specific build for doing so, a build that would only work for this one situation and added as much cheese on top as i could think of...

Now this screenshot i posted here, was just the very standard pvp bw timestamp rotation i wanted to see, how much the highest 3sec spike would look like. The overall killspeed of the rest of the encounter is not impressive because the backloaded playstyle of these snap-shot timestamps are based around pretty much oneshotting the target when all of the spells hit within 1-3sec of eachother.
So yeah if you go for a targetdummy kill rotation you might reach higher 3sec spike burst, but i wanted to see the 3sec realistic(as realistic as it can get on a dummy and not a player) timestamp burst. Now it would be interesting to add a sorc timestamp on top and see if they are indeed this "way stronger" singletarget monster over Bw.

[TreefAM]

Highest 3sec burst I had on my sorc was 7.6k, but I'm still in vanq with the influence wep.

[Nishka]

if anything BW needs a NERF. 1 in 2 players on order are a bw or have a bw and they all do the same shitty thing of spamming rof (which stacks) and are fine getting 3 invader from a fort because they are too garbage to function in city.

Did you just confirm my post? You're basically saying that BW's are suboptimal for anything else other than spamming RoF, which is exactly my point.