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Re: [Zarbix] Talking about class balance

Post#21 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:01 am

aa91837 wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:59 am
ByzantineTime wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:58 am
Jinxypie wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:57 am

You know whats broken? Rampage!
No pet should be able to solo targets m1's or not. and I'm destro player.
just Detaunt pet
then pet dealt 1.1k damage, and msh rapes you itself :D

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Re: [Zarbix] Talking about class balance

Post#22 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:10 am

ByzantineTime wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:58 am
Jinxypie wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:57 am
ByzantineTime wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:55 am

It's broken as hell if you don't agree you just biased lol
You know whats broken? Rampage!
No pet should be able to solo targets m1's or not. and I'm destro player.
Thats why you kill the pet.
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Re: [Zarbix] Talking about class balance

Post#23 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:12 am

Oh yes the kill the pet argument, some people used to say that about WL and they ended up nerfing it continuously, so good luck SH with that argument

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Re: [Zarbix] Talking about class balance

Post#24 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:20 am

What destro doesnt understand is that the pet is Range one, not like WL's one.

You cannot detaunt as Mdps a pet or the SH himself which hit you from afar. You cannot hit it, you cannot CC it, neither the tank nor the mdps.

Destro Melee dps can detaunt WL pet, destro Range dps can detaunt, CC, kill Wl pet (if not on frenzy, but can still detaunt) before it reach them.
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Re: [Zarbix] Talking about class balance

Post#25 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:22 am

Gurf wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:12 am Oh yes the kill the pet argument, some people used to say that about WL and they ended up nerfing it continuously, so good luck SH with that argument
Not just argument. Watch any 6v6 what are they doing. Killing pet is the priority.
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Re: [Zarbix] Talking about class balance

Post#26 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:33 am

Jildaz wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:20 am What destro doesnt understand is that the pet is Range one, not like WL's one.

You cannot detaunt as Mdps a pet or the SH himself which hit you from afar. You cannot hit it, you cannot CC it, neither the tank nor the mdps.

Destro Melee dps can detaunt WL pet, destro Range dps can detaunt, CC, kill Wl pet (if not on frenzy, but can still detaunt) before it reach them.
This is meleeSH whine thread, hence the pet in this case is also melee. So you can and should detaunt no problem. Watch any mara or dpsDoK vids and you will be surprised what they are doing against WLs. Using DETAUNT! Order is just used to face roll and feel triggered now.
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Re: [Zarbix] Talking about class balance

Post#27 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:35 am

unlike the WL the SH can eat his pet and instantly summoned a new one.
There is no point killing the SH pet like doing it in the wl who need to wait to cast a new one
Jinxypie wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:33 am This is meleeSH whine thread, hence the pet in this case is also melee. So you can and should detaunt no problem. Watch any mara or dpsDoK vids and you will be surprised what they are doing against WLs. Using DETAUNT! Order is just used to face roll and feel triggered now.
detaunt (in my case) works for 5 sec. Sh pet M1 is 15 sec long and frenzy even 20 sec. if he dont kill me in the first 5 sec he do it in the last 10 to 15? I mean on the steam the 2.2k was just auto attack hits no even an ability hit
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Re: [Zarbix] Talking about class balance

Post#28 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:57 am

knick wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:35 am unlike the WL the SH can eat his pet and instantly summoned a new one.
There is no point killing the SH pet like doing it in the wl who need to wait to cast a new one
Jinxypie wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:33 am This is meleeSH whine thread, hence the pet in this case is also melee. So you can and should detaunt no problem. Watch any mara or dpsDoK vids and you will be surprised what they are doing against WLs. Using DETAUNT! Order is just used to face roll and feel triggered now.
detaunt (in my case) works for 5 sec. Sh pet M1 is 15 sec long and frenzy even 20 sec. if he dont kill me in the first 5 sec he do it in the last 10 to 15? I mean on the steam the 2.2k was just auto attack hits no even an ability hit
Question is what the rest of your group is doing? Or your talking about 1v1 balance?
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Re: [Zarbix] Talking about class balance

Post#29 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:03 pm

Jinxypie wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:57 am
knick wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:35 am unlike the WL the SH can eat his pet and instantly summoned a new one.
There is no point killing the SH pet like doing it in the wl who need to wait to cast a new one
Jinxypie wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:33 am This is meleeSH whine thread, hence the pet in this case is also melee. So you can and should detaunt no problem. Watch any mara or dpsDoK vids and you will be surprised what they are doing against WLs. Using DETAUNT! Order is just used to face roll and feel triggered now.
detaunt (in my case) works for 5 sec. Sh pet M1 is 15 sec long and frenzy even 20 sec. if he dont kill me in the first 5 sec he do it in the last 10 to 15? I mean on the steam the 2.2k was just auto attack hits no even an ability hit
Question is what the rest of your group is doing? Or your talking about 1v1 balance?
you talking about killing pet and detaunt. nobody talking about 1v1. You said "JuSt DeTaUnT PeT" and "kIlL PeT ItS So EaSy". No its not. There is no difference in 1v1 or in a 6v6. The M1 is still 15 sec and detaunt works 5 sec
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Re: [Zarbix] Talking about class balance

Post#30 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:10 pm

Not saying those hits are weak, but what we just whitnessed in the video:
No detaunt/guard, squishy class, he's still badly geared, 1v1.
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