Pandering and buffs to order ?

[Diggot]

Just watched this vid from Magnog .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejeIdSCt0ig

And one of the comments was about the devs buffing order which caused the player to quit,
so i'm wondering... what buffs ?. I've been away for a while and considering coming back.
However... if the devs are buffing and pandering to order, a faction that already has the strongest classes,
that i don't feel too keen on returning.

Devs should not favor any faction or class, they should strive for balance at all times.

[Kaelang]

Just watched this vid from Magnog .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejeIdSCt0ig

However... if the devs are buffing and pandering to order, a faction that already has the strongest classes, that i don't feel too keen on returning.

Devs should not favor any faction or class, they should strive for balance at all times.

The age old Order Biased meme.

Quite frankly, the development team don’t care if you’re a sparkly elf or if you’re a dark elf. They want to produce a balanced environment regardless. Not sure why we have to repeat ourselves when this question comes up - but my guess is a few disgruntled players talking in private about how we hate a certain side.

To answer your question - the project isn’t biased to one side. If that was the case we wouldn’t have lasted this long and have the population we do.

[Stophy22]

Just watched this vid from Magnog .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejeIdSCt0ig

And one of the comments was about the devs buffing order which caused the player to quit,
so i'm wondering... what buffs ?. I've been away for a while and considering coming back.
However... if the devs are buffing and pandering to order, a faction that already has the strongest classes,
that i don't feel too keen on returning.

Devs should not favor any faction or class, they should strive for balance at all times.

try not to listen to random comments on youtube

[normanis]

Just watched this vid from Magnog .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejeIdSCt0ig

And one of the comments was about the devs buffing order which caused the player to quit,
so i'm wondering... what buffs ?. I've been away for a while and considering coming back.
However... if the devs are buffing and pandering to order, a faction that already has the strongest classes,
that i don't feel too keen on returning.

Devs should not favor any faction or class, they should strive for balance at all times.

jas can say what destro said when they win 80% city overall. git gud

[wargrimnir]

Just watched this vid from Magnog .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejeIdSCt0ig

And one of the comments was about the devs buffing order which caused the player to quit,
so i'm wondering... what buffs ?. I've been away for a while and considering coming back.
However... if the devs are buffing and pandering to order, a faction that already has the strongest classes,
that i don't feel too keen on returning.

Devs should not favor any faction or class, they should strive for balance at all times.

Balance is an easy scapegoat when the meta shifts out of favor for your realm. This post on the balance proposal subforum contains the same guidelines for balance that we use internally. The drama you're looking for is related to Realm Champions (which also weren't chosen based primarily on realm affiliation) and the direct failing, of one people identified as a Destro representative, to provide any detailed or constructive feedback for a couple months. He was removed for that reason, and people made it into a realm bias thing as that better suited their own biased agenda.

The patch the Realm Champions provided feedback on was not decided by them for implementation, but rather by the internal dev team who bears full responsibility for what balance changes are implemented. No one on the team has any reason to release changes that break the game one way or the other, that would be terribly counterproductive. However, we also accept that any balance change is going to be rejected by some proportion of the general playerbase and whether they post constructively, or in a passive aggressive drama inducing way, will have different outcomes.

It's a lot easier to blame balance and devs for both individually and realm shortcomings, pivoting to external factors rather than addressing the factors you can improve on by yourself. However, it's also disrespectful to the devs who work on the game honestly and don't deserve those kinds of bias accusations. Kaelang is accurate, the dev team can't have bias to either realm, it would be extremely damaging to the game in the long run.

If the current meta doesn't suit your tastes, wait a couple of months until the next wave of changes shows up. We probably spend an unnecessary amount of time and caution and deliberation when making balance changes. We know when some of them will be more unpopular than others, but meta doesn't shift without a good hard push once in a while. Balance changing over time is necessary for a healthy game state, don't expect things to stay the same forever. We're not aiming for a specific end goal where we can stop and say balance is finally perfect, it's always going to be cyclical.