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The "new" fort lag/DC problem

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:48 pm
by Aethilmar
Well not new but starting to happen again. Been pretty smooth for several weeks with the previous changes to address it and now getting mass DCs all the time.

Any idea what the new variable is?

Re: The "new" fort lag/DC problem

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:27 pm
by GRUSZKA
CertainGuild has joined in the efforts of taking this fort.
OrderPlayer1 disconnected uncleanly from the server.
OrderPlayer2 disconnected uncleanly from the server.
OrderPlayer3 disconnected uncleanly from the server.
(...)

;)

Re: The "new" fort lag/DC problem

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:42 am
by Aethilmar
Oh I'm aware of the guilds that seem to be connected with it, I'm more curious what they are doing to make it happen. Until it gets fixed (or declared an exploit), only fair that both sides have access to the same tactics.

Re: The "new" fort lag/DC problem

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:50 pm
by Rubius
Also noticed this happening last week.

Chalked it up to the typical crashes with graphics lag as pushes happen, but if it's happening quite regularly, or triggered by guilds claiming forts, we should try to flag that to the team.

Are we 100% sure it's caused by guilds claiming and repeatable?

Re: The "new" fort lag/DC problem

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:24 pm
by GRUSZKA
I guess in-game action "claiming" doesn't matter here at all. It is more about them being there and doing "something" with AOE effect. :)

All these crashes are a typical situation where you overload game client with high number of numerical operations to perform in short amount of time, that CPU/game client can't handle, causing the game to crash.
Various pots were to blame first - as they have AOE effects that in fort specification (300 players in really small area) is causing massive amount of calculations forced on clients. While in-game gain of using them was not worth all these lags and crashes. That's why they were disabled.
But obviously some other AOE effects will have such impact too.

Having CPU with great Single Thread Performance helps a lot in all of this, so having monster PC with right CPU is 'a workaround'. See list of CPU to put into your wishlist:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
Once I highly upgraded my PC I see no lags in forts almost at all. After one month of playing I had noticeable one only once and yes, it was during PUSH when given guild was there attacking. While plenty of forts (10-20) done without them and without any serious lag or even no lag at all.
And as gossips says - Having proper PC specification is mandatory to join ranks of that guild.

Question is then: What are they using to have that devastating AoE effect / workload on game client?
It could be even one skill that is poorly written (code wise) and is causing multiple numerical operations to calculate it's effect that increase in nonlinear fashion.

Re: The "new" fort lag/DC problem

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:28 pm
by Fenris78
I just found this addon today, might worth a try to reduce stutter/crashes :
viewtopic.php?f=66&t=46913

Also be sure to reduce "played effects on" to zero (or yourself only), and if not enough, check the "VFXDisable" in the "server" tab, and use a macro to disable your combatlog :

/script local z = DataUtils.GetMacros() local b = TextLogGetEnabled local c = ("Combat") local a = TextLogSetEnabled if b(c) then a(c, false) SetMacroData(z[43].name, z[43].text, 23, 43) else SetMacroData(z[43].name, z[43].text, 26, 43) a(c,true) end

(slot the macro to last line, first slot - or change all the "43" to the slot number you want to use).

Re: The "new" fort lag/DC problem

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:14 pm
by Aethilmar
So three times today so far when a door has been destroyed (both keep and fort) I suffered a DC (and no other time during the gameplay session). It would be sad if there were a bunch of fabulously manipulative jerks behind it.