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Sulorie
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Re: Best solo class ?

Post#11 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:43 am

SuperStar wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:13 am The best solo class without question the regen WB witchelf.
Check some video from Insolence.
This class hasn't got counter, has stealth, good burst, amazing survivor and kiter, imba hunter.
From all things this class spec+build has, burst isn't a part of it.
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SuperStar
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Re: Best solo class ?

Post#12 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:47 am

Check Insolence's videos. He can kill fast. Don't compare with a glass Cannon group or warband dps coz it's pointless.

Compare with the other solo build. She has a good burst. Imo better than solo deftard wl.

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Xirucio
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Re: Best solo class ?

Post#13 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:00 am

The best solo class is the class that can stack regen items in a ''functional'' to a level of broken Op mechanic manner.
If winning fights easy is your definition of quality solo experience then yea, definitely the above.
The downside is the fact that you will carry a stigma / aura around you in a form of when players will loose against you, they will put all the merits on the spec that you are using and not necessarily on a level of player skill.

Sulorie
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Re: Best solo class ?

Post#14 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:01 am

SuperStar wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:47 am Check Insolence's videos. He can kill fast. Don't compare with a glass Cannon group or warband dps coz it's pointless.

Compare with the other solo build. She has a good burst. Imo better than solo deftard wl.
I know the videos and no, the kills are not fast. It's efficient and great for soloing but it's not what someone should understand as "burst" dmg, especially if comparing with an actual dps spec. When you only look at solo builds, some do more dmg than others but even then the fights are more about sustain than damage potential.
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Farrul
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Re: Best solo class ?

Post#15 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:10 am

Sulorie wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:01 am
SuperStar wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:47 am Check Insolence's videos. He can kill fast. Don't compare with a glass Cannon group or warband dps coz it's pointless.

Compare with the other solo build. She has a good burst. Imo better than solo deftard wl.
I know the videos and no, the kills are not fast. It's efficient and great for soloing but it's not what someone should understand as "burst" dmg, especially if comparing with an actual dps spec. When you only look at solo builds, some do more dmg than others but even then the fights are more about sustain than damage potential.
That's a contradiction, you don't kill fast but it's ''efficient and great''?

Let's be honest here you kill far too fast and indeed ''efficient'' considering the sustain & escape tools available. That's why ''WE regen'' spec is clearly overtuned balance-wise when these three elements are taken into consideration. I don't suggest your dps need a nerf though(except interaction between witchbrew/undefendable daggers) only your sustain (Absorb on crit tactic need an adequate nerf).

@OP WE is the best solo class but it's overtuned, otherwise Shaman/def magus or order WH/AM are likely the strongest picks. Perhaps a better question you should ask yourself is: What is the most fun class for me to play?

All classes can do ''ok'' in solo if you gear them out sufficently and learn how to play with it, get a basic understanding of your enemy abilities and learn how to time and counter correctly will determine your success when roaming solo(build a list with buffhead addon for important buffs/debuffs)

Sulorie
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Re: Best solo class ?

Post#16 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:04 am

Farrul wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:10 am
Sulorie wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:01 am
SuperStar wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:47 am Check Insolence's videos. He can kill fast. Don't compare with a glass Cannon group or warband dps coz it's pointless.

Compare with the other solo build. She has a good burst. Imo better than solo deftard wl.
I know the videos and no, the kills are not fast. It's efficient and great for soloing but it's not what someone should understand as "burst" dmg, especially if comparing with an actual dps spec. When you only look at solo builds, some do more dmg than others but even then the fights are more about sustain than damage potential.
That's a contradiction, you don't kill fast but it's ''efficient and great''?

Let's be honest here you kill far too fast and indeed ''efficient'' considering the sustain & escape tools available. That's why ''WE regen'' spec is clearly overtuned balance-wise when these three elements are taken into consideration. I don't suggest your dps need a nerf though(except interaction between witchbrew/undefendable daggers) only your sustain (Absorb on crit tactic need an adequate nerf).

@OP WE is the best solo class but it's overtuned, otherwise Shaman/def magus or order WH/AM are likely the strongest picks. Perhaps a better question you should ask yourself is: What is the most fun class for me to play?
No, it's no contradiction, because in different environments other traits are an advantage.

In a group with healers and tanks, high damage and burst are the way to go. When you go solo rvr with that spec, some random dot can already mess up your day, because even low damage will reduce your health and you have not many ways to get life back, especially if other enemies add to the fight.

Regen def spec kills slow compared to their DPS spec. But when you have no healers as enemy, you don't have to kill fast, you have to outlast your enemies. It is efficient in this department. It is great because you can attack a lot more enemies and in case the fight doesn't go too well, you live longer and might have the chance to escape - e.g. surviving the dots on you, while you are in stealth, when DPS spec WE would die.
This makes it great for soloing.

The absorb tactic already has a cool down and prevents like one critical hit. If your enemy doesn't go for sustain as well, the match is already uneven. You let someone build for solo play fight against someone, who needs a group.

On a general note, most 1vs1 are decided by who got the better potions, because this is what matters, the ability to outlast your opponent.
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messerjockel
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Re: Best solo class ?

Post#17 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:38 am

WE and WH hands down without a doubt.
They are predators and prey on victims which is every other class.
They have not only high survive ability because of stealth, they also chose the fight and when to start it.
Also high damage and very important too, the tools to escape.
Additionally you will fly through the renown ranks by killing one of two afk after keep takes without risk (remember the escape tools). Pretty easy renown.


BR and have fun

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Krima
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Re: Best solo class ?

Post#18 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:40 pm

SuperStar wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:47 am Check Insolence's videos. He can kill fast. Don't compare with a glass Cannon group or warband dps coz it's pointless.

Compare with the other solo build. She has a good burst. Imo better than solo deftard wl.
Killing fast as a WE is like 3gcd.
Sorry but, regen WE has mediocre burst.

Regen WE wont kill good healers just for your info.
bad players go easy path and invest into regen WE. Offensive WE still the best solo out there if played correctly.
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Re: Best solo class ?

Post#19 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:11 pm

if you want ez solo mode then AM/Shaman, mostly WH/WE.

Then or either SW/SH, Magus/engi? or any tank (no knights unless you want to be the first chad to do it in a long time)... WP/DOK are good but kinda ass against ranged.

then def Mara/WL or SL/choppy, slayer is better cuz rampage helps too much in any situation.

then the hardest are BW/sorc but i guess BW is easier cuz they have a knockdown and you can kite more...

i've seen good solo dps zealots and runnies but i guess you dont kill fast
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Tanski
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Re: Best solo class ?

Post#20 » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:40 pm

If solo play is what your after I would highly suggest against going any 2h tanks. While you have a good chance to mdps and other tanks, rdps will just kite and /emote you and there’s literally nothing you can do about it unless you ambush them around corners. That’s not to mention we/we will deal true dmg to you with 100% armor penetration, so all that armor you have means nothing.

The only two archetypes that you have a solid chance at most classes is dps AM/Sham (Am being better with extra dot and cleanse) or WH/We ( WH has better finishers/ WE can go regen build with witch brew)
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