Defeating a Chosen Solo

[Toshutkidup]

I’m not killing a geared regen solo chosen. Their regen, mitigation, and output is too high. They can bypass any parry. Top tier chosens I get to maybe 60% before I die and that’s after I use regen pot, insta heal and absorb and couple rounds of RoA. It’s the price to play*ng solo slayer, some classes you can beat, others beat you. I generally don’t struggle vs most WE’S however.

Now that all being said if I was to play a regen spec slayer MAYBE I could do better, however Im Fundamentally against dps classes being regen specs so I will never know.

[diegomess]

Get resists pot.

[reynor007]

Hey all,

I need advice defeating a Chosen solo, as a slayer. I'm rr 73, with ID and Rune of Absoption. I figure I need to get to rr80 to add the healing debuff skill. I can kill a few Chosen, but some higher rr ones it seems imposible. Any advice? Thanks in advance.

there is very little chance to kill the chosen regen, you definitely need the maximum available parry and WS, you must stand still under the influence of touch of palsy (I advise you to bring it to buffhead).
You can win with Inevitable Doom and weapon procs like 360 ​​dmg fortress weap. they ignore stamina, I think that at the beginning of the battle it would be better to use numbing strike, and spend rage on knockdown and only after that use rampage, you definitely should use m2 Deadly Determination, figure out how to live up to it yourself, well, from the obvious Rune of Absorption it is desirable use after the opponent spends a taunt

[reynor007]

I'm always down for some Garden of Quath dueling! Saves me time running around the lakes getting ganged up on over and over looking for that rare fun 1v1 fight.

my WH is always at your service, believe me, like no one else I know how boring it becomes to win everyone over time)

[Panzer80]

White Lions - easy kills if i can catch them. Most just run.

The thing about a WL is that you will rarely catch it solo as a tank if the player knows what it is doing, WL is not just a melee brawler class but through the pet also able to kite and harras until the time to attack is right. However if you do catch it (the ranged stagger on Chosen) a bis WL will have 9-10 k wounds/ 5 k armor/detaunt/ pet cc, m1, if built right it's not a squishy target to easily kill. In fact i can't remember the last time a solo tank killd mine without the assistance of a WE/Shamy etc.

On my WL when up against a geared chosen or another destro tank i will let it believe it has all the advantage, run off but keep myself within range so that the tank is unable to mount/escape (this will make lots of tanks type /chicken . The objective is obvious and usually ends with the WL collecting War crests from the tank as soon as another Order toon joins the fight.

But admittedly if it's just a duel with no interference trying to brutalize a regen tank is not going to work without patience and time, i've had some success kiting/stun/pounce routine and made a few overconfident tanks bend the knee but these situations happens so rarely that it is hard to test it properly, 9 times out of 10 there will always be a WH/WE/Green midget or whatever somewhere disturbing all kinds of dueling attempts.

Vs. WL trying to kite with pet - the entire time they disengage to try to kite i'm regening health back up until they can pounce and do their rotation. It doesn't do enough damage to kill me. Either they stay and fight or run away. I'm guessing the success you had with some overconfident tanks weren't geared properly for the long haul.

Vs. SW - I've never found any SW a challenge. Keep em snared, break snare as soon as they self punt, quake if they start to get away, usually they're dead after that.

I say all this fully aware that being able to stack massive amounts of hp regen is a silly gimmick that should be nerfed/capped somehow. Getting rid of the" spicy troll mushroom" 80 hp/4 second pocket item and not allowing equipping more than one fleshrender ring would be a great start.

As far as regen goes, not really, considering it only works in small game, stacking too much is detrimental to stats, and anyone can do the same stacking.
Also, no chosen can kill a defense/regen spec WL unless they just stand there letting them attack. It's just that most of them don't play that way. They prefer to get nuked by tanks & WE's and rely on KD and 35 gold absorb pots.

[lumpi33]

As far as regen goes, not really, considering it only works in small game, stacking too much is detrimental to stats, and anyone can do the same stacking.

Everybody can do the same item stacking yes, BUT not everybody has got heavy armor, absorb tactic and heal generation aura. Im not sure about the moral 2 if it stacks with the regen and heal potions.

There are only a few classes that perform well with regen builds. Most of them have some kind of absorb or other healing ability. The regen alone is not enough. That's the main reason it works so well on chosen because they have the absorb, they have the extra healing and they have good defense without crippling their damage too much. They can even debuff their own magical damage which is great vs heavy armored targets.

There is no other tank like that.

[sharpblader]

As far as regen goes, not really, considering it only works in small game, stacking too much is detrimental to stats, and anyone can do the same stacking.

Everybody can do the same item stacking yes, BUT not everybody has got heavy armor, absorb tactic and heal generation aura. Im not sure about the moral 2 if it stacks with the regen and heal potions.

There are only a few classes that perform well with regen builds. Most of them have some kind of absorb or other healing ability. The regen alone is not enough. That's the main reason it works so well on chosen because they have the absorb, they have the extra healing and they have good defense without crippling their damage too much. They can even debuff their own magical damage which is great vs heavy armored targets.

There is no other tank like that.

Swordmasters are like that. With a spirit debuff almost double than that of a Chosen.

[lumpi33]

As far as regen goes, not really, considering it only works in small game, stacking too much is detrimental to stats, and anyone can do the same stacking.

Everybody can do the same item stacking yes, BUT not everybody has got heavy armor, absorb tactic and heal generation aura. Im not sure about the moral 2 if it stacks with the regen and heal potions.

There are only a few classes that perform well with regen builds. Most of them have some kind of absorb or other healing ability. The regen alone is not enough. That's the main reason it works so well on chosen because they have the absorb, they have the extra healing and they have good defense without crippling their damage too much. They can even debuff their own magical damage which is great vs heavy armored targets.

There is no other tank like that.

Swordmasters are like that. With a spirit debuff almost double than that of a Chosen.

I'm not saying that SM is bad. He can be pretty good in group play.

However regarding solo play the chosen is way way better than the SM. The CC alone makes it superior. Knock down, stagger and mega punt. Ever tried to catch a running solo chosen? Good luck with that. Run speed after disrupt tactic, permanent resi/tough aura, passive absorb/regen all while staggering/knocking/punting people left and right.

Again, there is no other tank like that.

[Martok]

Swordmasters - BIS 2H SMs are good fights to be had. Can go either way, honestly. Gotta watch for their M3 ability and break off and stop until it fades.

You and I had an excellent fight in Saphery once, made it into one of my videos. Did go down to the wire but I think with a timely AP Pot one additional parry and a machine gun I would have won.

[Farrul]

Everybody can do the same item stacking yes, BUT not everybody has got heavy armor, absorb tactic and heal generation aura. Im not sure about the moral 2 if it stacks with the regen and heal potions.

There are only a few classes that perform well with regen builds. Most of them have some kind of absorb or other healing ability. The regen alone is not enough. That's the main reason it works so well on chosen because they have the absorb, they have the extra healing and they have good defense without crippling their damage too much. They can even debuff their own magical damage which is great vs heavy armored targets.

There is no other tank like that.

Swordmasters are like that. With a spirit debuff almost double than that of a Chosen.

I'm not saying that SM is bad. He can be pretty good in group play.

However regarding solo play the chosen is way way better than the SM. The CC alone makes it superior. Knock down, stagger and mega punt. Ever tried to catch a running solo chosen? Good luck with that. Run speed after disrupt tactic, permanent resi/tough aura, passive absorb/regen all while staggering/knocking/punting people left and right.

Again, there is no other tank like that.

For that level of CC dps output would have to be sacrificed (Knockdown/Stagger both 9 pointers in different trees) super punt requires another tactic.

SM does a few things better than chosen, it can have higher potential regen or the strongest tank absorb , better damage output if going for a crit build. Best tank M1. The deflect of the SM makes it tanky vs ranged kiters.

I've been experimenting a lot with my SM lately using different builds/pots etc and i see enough advantages to put in on par with a Chosen for solo roaming, i still rate Chosen higher though only because it does not have to fight goblin kiting patrols.