Why High Elves classes so op?

[tefnaht]

And SW! Pierce Defenses adds 10% parry/dodge strikethrough, for everyone so SM has 40% Parry strikethrough, 30% still if using just 1 not 2 tactics. WL has 30% as well with pierce defenses.

+ Engi + SH, basic strategy for all phys rDPS.

2H +10% parry ignore not the elf thing, nor dual +10% parry.

AM-SM good as an idea to deal damage at some point in a late game.

SW - pew-pew without drawback like turret or combustion.

WL - melee with pet like starting bite and non-target aoe + leap at the end, leap is great for mDPS, but only WE has sort of it with no AoE and no option to use it from mount. SH and SW - rDPS, SM - tank.

Discerning offense is not a reason why ppl play elf, but it's sad for Riposte WE.

HE classes looks great on paper, from the perspective of new player without experience about high end gameplay on this server. Like WH-WE, on paper - stealth assasin character, in reality just stealth character. Or AM-Sham misunderstanding...

[Neznan]

HE classes looks great on paper, from the perspective of new player without experience about high end gameplay on this server. Like WH-WE, on paper - stealth assasin character, in reality just stealth character. Or AM-Sham misunderstanding...

On what paper?
T4 like 50% of all orda are WL

[tromat]

HE classes looks great on paper, from the perspective of new player without experience about high end gameplay on this server. Like WH-WE, on paper - stealth assasin character, in reality just stealth character. Or AM-Sham misunderstanding...

On what paper?
T4 like 50% of all orda are WL

nop

[Lion1986]

HE classes are not OP- people believe that but screaming at the sky won't change reality.

Yap, not OP, that is why most orders are playing them )))
You can have your own oppinion, I can have mine, but statistic....
Check out killboard - it is Lions and SW allover.

At T1 scenarions sometime it is 11 Elfs and one other calss.

https://imgur.com/a/3WORbCm
ok with the same principle then nerf choppas, magus and sorceress because tehy are top classes on monthly killboard

[Neznan]

nop

Where to see this statistic? Any link?

[tefnaht]

HE classes looks great on paper, from the perspective of new player without experience about high end gameplay on this server. Like WH-WE, on paper - stealth assasin character, in reality just stealth character. Or AM-Sham misunderstanding...

On what paper?

In most cases on the toilet papar. Like Fire Arrow build for SW, 3 tactics 1 skill with 10sec cd, what would be wrong?

[Illuminati]

Is this why most guides/builds ignore Deft Defender? Is it a waste of points due to all the avoidance bypass?

[Alubert]

People believe too much in block/parry/dodge/disrupt breakthrough.
After the changes, you cannot lower your opponent's defense (parry, block, dodge, disrupt) by more than half.
This means that if your opponent has 40% avoidence after all the buffs then you can't lower him more than to 20% of a given statistic or if someone has 10% then he will never have less than 5%.
So it is definitely the opposite of what most people say.
It is definitely worth increasing block/parry/dodge/disrupt.

[Keula]

Is this why most guides/builds ignore Deft Defender? Is it a waste of points due to all the avoidance bypass?

Before 23/10/2024, sure kinda of waste for a lot of classes.
But since that patch you always get at least half of your avoidance(after debuffs), no matter what, even if the enemy has a million strikethrough, so kinda worth. At least the 1st two levels cause they're cheap, after that, idk.

[Illuminati]

Is this why most guides/builds ignore Deft Defender? Is it a waste of points due to all the avoidance bypass?

Before 23/10/2024, sure kinda of waste for a lot of classes.
But since that patch you always get at least half of your avoidance(after debuffs), no matter what, even if the enemy has a million strikethrough, so kinda worth. At least the 1st two levels cause they're cheap, after that, idk.

Was thinking the same thing. Probably good for BG with the crazy disrupt build they can get but for many it's a 5% chance stat.