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IB/BG mechanic points

Post#1 » Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:07 pm

IB grudge tooltip -
You gain 5 Grudges any time an enemy attacks you and additional Grudges when your Oath Friend is attacked.
BG hate tooltip -
You gain 5 Hate any time an enemy attacks you and build additional Hate when you attack.

it's clearly indicating 2 sources.
1 from enemy attack.
2 from BG's own attack and IB Oath Friend is attacked.
but IB's second part is not working.
when Oath Friend is attacked it only generate grudge from Oath Friend itself, 3~10.
it should be ( 3~10 ) + 5, Oath Friend + basic mechanic.
BG is getting hate from Dark Protector + basic mechanic.

though BG can only attack at every 1.5 sec, IB's second part of basic mechanic should have 1sec internal CD.

one of counter for IB/BG is ignoring them to starve mechanic points.
second sources are critical in this case.
currently IB have 1 less source.

here's other options.
BG
Simmering Anger - 10 from enemy crit you, 1s
Thirst For Death - 10 from your attack crit, 1s
Efficient Slaughter - 5 less hate use, 1s
Monstrous Ruin - malice mastery 4 points, Monstrous Rending ( AoE ) 5 reduced hate cost.
IB
Dwarven Riposte - 30 from parry, 3s
Rising Anger - 5 from your attack, 1s
Shield Sweep - basic skill, required shield

options are safe to say balanced.

but here's another issue.
Dark Protector tooltip says ICD 1sec.
Oath Friend tooltip don't say it and actually there's no ICD.
i'm not sure it's bandaid fix or compensation : 1 less mechanic source but u get tons from AoE.

in current AoE system, IB can get full resource almost instantly.
too much difference in small scale vs large.
both DP and OF should have ICD and basic mechanic fix for IB.

related disscussion
viewtopic.php?f=74&t=47540
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