Page 1 of 3

Have to Dps rant!

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:44 am
by KikkL
So, if your a DPS and you stack offensive stats, str, balis,int.
How come it seems to be 200% more effective than if you stack, wil, tgh, armor, wds, ect?

How come it seems a DPS can eliminate most without much effort?
How come it takes 2/3 people to help someone against a pure dps?
How come there seems to be so much emphasis on dps, and defensive abilities just seem like a minor roadblock?

Re: Have to Dps rant!

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:55 am
by GodlessCrom
Try playing a pure dps man. They are squish. Without guard and heals its rough, especially for mdps.

Re: Have to Dps rant!

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:03 am
by peterthepan3
KikkL wrote:So, if your a DPS and you stack offensive stats, str, balis,int.
How come it seems to be 200% more effective than if you stack, wil, tgh, armor, wds, ect?
That's not true at all. Stacking strength/Int/ball may give a more readily noticeable effect, i.e. enemies die quicker, but stacking armor/toughness/block/parry/etc shows when the enemies you are trying to kill with your "200% effective" offensive stats don't die.

Re: Have to Dps rant!

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:51 am
by catholicism198
He's just venting.

Re: Have to Dps rant!

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:59 am
by Dabbart
Because your defenses can be debuffed quite heavily, but debuffing of your main attack stat only affects 1 portion of the DPS you create. Weapon, ability, procs, etc also add to your DPS.

I feel like you need to learn how to detaunt people... Remember that AA will break Detaunt, so if they are in melee with you, make sure to change your target... Unless you are seriously outclassed, 1 DPS should have issue taking out a healer that stacks defensively. Also, Wounds and Resistances are more important than what you posted. 5k armor, 1k toughness with 450 wounds and 300 resistances is going to get time-stamped by any BW/Sorc, and wont survive to stand up from any WH/WE KD...

if you are complaining from a Tank perspective then you are doing it wrong.

If from a DPS perspective stacking defensively, then you need a Guard.

Or is this another thread wanting HP to be increased to 20k?

Re: Have to Dps rant!

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:32 am
by anarchypark
Dabbart wrote: I feel like you need to learn how to detaunt people... Remember that AA will break Detaunt, so if they are in melee with you, make sure to change your target...
afaik detaunt cancel AA automatically.

Re: Have to Dps rant!

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:37 am
by NoRKaLKiLLa
Nerf dps! Or buff it!

Re: Have to Dps rant!

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:21 pm
by Dabbart
anarchypark wrote:
Dabbart wrote: I feel like you need to learn how to detaunt people... Remember that AA will break Detaunt, so if they are in melee with you, make sure to change your target...
afaik detaunt cancel AA automatically.

Appears your are correct. Strange. I distinctly remember this being an issue in my WP, but that was awhile ago...

Re: Have to Dps rant!

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:22 am
by KikkL
catholicism198 wrote:He's just venting.
YES! I hate it!
NO matter what i seem to do! I get screwed over by no talent scrubs pressing their constant DPS on ME!
Detaunt my ASS! does nothing. nothing does nothing!
I consider myself a great player, so why I get walked all over by dps consistently?
I know im not the only one! I SEE it on the battlefield!
:evil: :evil:

You get a dps on you your screwed! I Dont care what you say! NO class can outlast a dps!
it just is not in game design, you will eventually die.
You need support against a DPS, but a dps does not need support to kill YOU!

Re: Have to Dps rant!

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:12 am
by szejoza
Then you're definately doing smth wrong, some classes are stronger, some are weaker but the overall balance is on a 'quite acceptable level'

Try playing slayer in 2 situations - without guard you'll be squishy as hell and die in mere seconds, while with guard you will be roflstomping dps machine. I can assure you it's pretty much the same for all dps classes

Accept your weekness, select your opponents wisely and find a good dps-survivability balance for your class is all I can say :D

Oh and btw, if you are facing R40RR70 with your freshly leveled R40RR30 don't expect to have an easy time :D