I agree it wouldnt matter which check came first. What I think is being talked about is a single check vs two multiplicative checks. If they were additive they would have the same weight. 50% parry is 50% avoidance. 50% parry 30% block is 65% avoidance.
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Re: Amount of parry
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Re: Amount of parry
Telen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:03 amKindly dont quote me and then change my text into your own, kinda missleading <---- And it looks wierdSmellybelly wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:58 am I though everyone was still talking about guard damage alone. In that check multiplicative avoidance checks have less weight.
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I'm sure there's good will in this position, but we're talking about GUARDDAMAGES only.Smellybelly wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:42 am How can you STILL not get it? Add a shield and you get your parry AND block, you use both as a SnB tank. You get double defence rolls as a SnB. First for parry AND then for Block. So get much much more defence with SnB then 2H. AND with a shield you can also block ranged and spells directed at you or random AoE dmg, a 2H user cannot defend with parry against that. Im tired of your ignorance, you dont read the answers you get.
That you can get higher parry then block does NOT mean that you have better defence with a 2H weapon. You can get the same parry PLUS block on top of that with a shield. You really need to learn the basics of this game because this is seriously getting old now.
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sorry, I can't help you.Smellybelly wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:44 am Just to make this clear, you do not add parry and block for a final %, you get double defence chances instead. its not 75% once but parry once and then block once.
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Re: réponse a Daniel sur le parrade
That hole your sitting in just keeps getting deeper budhogun wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:14 amI'm sure there's good will in this position, but we're talking about GUARDDAMAGES only.Smellybelly wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:42 am How can you STILL not get it? Add a shield and you get your parry AND block, you use both as a SnB tank. You get double defence rolls as a SnB. First for parry AND then for Block. So get much much more defence with SnB then 2H. AND with a shield you can also block ranged and spells directed at you or random AoE dmg, a 2H user cannot defend with parry against that. Im tired of your ignorance, you dont read the answers you get.
That you can get higher parry then block does NOT mean that you have better defence with a 2H weapon. You can get the same parry PLUS block on top of that with a shield. You really need to learn the basics of this game because this is seriously getting old now.
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Re: Amount of parry
Go see a doctor manhogun wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:15 amsorry, I can't help you.Smellybelly wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:44 am Just to make this clear, you do not add parry and block for a final %, you get double defence chances instead. its not 75% once but parry once and then block once.
Re: réponse a Daniel sur le parrade
same sorryrmpl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:45 amGlad someone actually took time to explain it to him because I've lost the faith in humanity already.Smellybelly wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:42 am How can you STILL not get it? Add a shield and you get your parry AND block, you use both as a SnB tank. You get double defence rolls as a SnB. First for parry AND then for Block. So get much much more defence with SnB then 2H. AND with a shield you can also block ranged and spells directed at you or random AoE dmg, a 2H user cannot defend with parry against that. Im tired of your ignorance, you dont read the answers you get.
That you can get higher parry then block does NOT mean that you have better defence with a 2H weapon. You can get the same parry PLUS block on top of that with a shield. You really need to learn the basics of this game because this is seriously getting old now.
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Re: réponse a Daniel sur le parrade
Great explanation Smellybelly, Block is probably the best damage negating tool as it is like parry, disrupt and dodge all combined. It works against melee and range, magic and physical damage type .Smellybelly wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:42 am How can you STILL not get it? Add a shield and you get your parry AND block, you use both as a SnB tank. You get double defence rolls as a SnB. First for parry AND then for Block. So get much much more defence with SnB then 2H. AND with a shield you can also block ranged and spells directed at you or random AoE dmg, a 2H user cannot defend with parry against that. Im tired of your ignorance, you dont read the answers you get.
That you can get higher parry then block does NOT mean that you have better defence with a 2H weapon. You can get the same parry PLUS block on top of that with a shield. You really need to learn the basics of this game because this is seriously getting old now.
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Re: Amount of parry
I get what Hogun is talking about.
50% parry is 50% avoidance. 50% parry 30% block is 65% avoidance. So Block gives 15% added avoidance because its not additive.
Maybe because guard damage has been changed we really should be thinking about making it additive. Block is only lower because it blocks more types. That isnt applicable to guard.
50% parry is 50% avoidance. 50% parry 30% block is 65% avoidance. So Block gives 15% added avoidance because its not additive.
Maybe because guard damage has been changed we really should be thinking about making it additive. Block is only lower because it blocks more types. That isnt applicable to guard.
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