Mighty Soul Removed?!

[Mystry]

The devs have pretty conclusively proven over the years that they don't play Order.
At least, the ones who make 'balance' decisions don't.

[sharpblader]

The devs have pretty conclusively proven over the years that they don't play Order.
At least, the ones who make 'balance' decisions don't.

Maybe some of them got rekt by solo knights who knows haha?

[Tarantoga]

just give us back old runefang... with the removal of the tactics knight cant do damage at all, because the sets lack of ws... chosen on the other hand can still do great damage even without the tactic.

[Ramlaen]

MS/DW were stupidly overpowered in the way they worked, converting *all* damage output to the respective magic damage type. The devs made more of the Knight's abilities do magic damage (to mirror the Chosen), and the game is better with these tactics removed.

I know you said on discord that you were not involved in this change, which is a good thing because claiming the two abilities changed to elemental damage are in any way a proper trade for losing access to Mighty Soul would show an incredible ignorance of the KOBS class.

[mytreds]

It is scary that a person who doesn't play knights or chosens highly influenced this decision.

[vanbuinen77]

Reminds me of when people got owned by certain classes who would then retaliate and nerf them as a result in the past.

[CptGeorges]

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Feel free to voice your concerns and suggestions here. Please keep it topical and polite.

[zulnam]

I would almost 100% agree with you but if you look at 2h of some tanks they are in a really good spot.

For now.

2H tanks were never going to be meta in warbands. Even the ones that do have some wb utility (knight and BG) are optional; things you take if you really don't have a proper tank lying around or if your guild is more casual oriented. It was a spec for us to have some fun in small-scale/SCs. To have fun in our own little bubble. I guess fun is a balance issue.

@Rowan hope you're ready to make WS talis for all of us! Our "dps" sets sure as sh*t don't give it.

[wargrimnir]

The devs have pretty conclusively proven over the years that they don't play Order.
At least, the ones who make 'balance' decisions don't.

Maybe some of them got rekt by solo knights who knows haha?

Comments like this are bullshit that won't be tolerated. There isn't any bias or lack of experience. We're quite capable of discussing class balance, and we're more than aware when changes are going to be perceived poorly. That doesn't mean they're not going to happen.

Things change.

[Tarantoga]

MS/DW were stupidly overpowered in the way they worked, converting *all* damage output to the respective magic damage type. The devs made more of the Knight's abilities do magic damage (to mirror the Chosen), and the game is better with these tactics removed.

ms stupidly overpowered? sry this is bs... by removing those 2 tactics, they nerfed the damage potential of the kotbs much more than the potential of the chosen. chosen can do great dmg without the tactic anyways. but hey... the aoe stagger got changed to elemental damage. an ability which doesnt have anything to do with a dps rotation. not even near to "mirror the chosen".