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Bignusty
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#281 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:20 pm

Razz1n wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:35 am Hurray, let's all play on destro so the game will be one sided once again!

Throwing of zones, no resistance at forts and AFK 1 stars cities guess you all wanted this :lol:

Because most order premades and alliances will boycott and not run they RvR events untill that absurd changes get fixed back, there is no point now to play seriously.
Then we can do the same whit your absurd no brain slayer train #rampage

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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#282 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:21 pm

Sofong wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:42 am after 28 pages bs where are those magical super op new chosens? where are desteo fort winning streak?
There are none. Ppl just like to engage in the biggest drama for the sake of it.
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#283 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:43 pm

Are there people,who protecting and justifying this tactic,huh?

I'm the only one interested in why the side with cosmic winrate(destro) is almost everywhere(exept forts, you need more dps healers for that, i think/sarcasm), telling to side with less winrate, how they are superOP? Order's winrate on SC and city still lower than 50% after all "unfair" destro's nerfs without new excluding new Chosen's toy. Its very strange balance decision.

Looks like balance for someplayers is, when one side wins 35 mirrors out of 40 how it was 6 months ago. Where was people,who defend it 6months ago? They was on winning side ofc. Everything suited them.
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#284 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:47 pm

wonshot wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:32 am
Spoiler:
Qtpiii wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:22 am
diedrake wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:15 am

yes order does have that, but it is SINGLE target and it is a global cooldown... The chosen just sits there and follows the melee ball, and reduces the order wb dps, just because the chosen is there. No abilities needing to be pressed, no Decision needing to be made to put that -25% crit chance as it applies to anyone critting the chosen.
Punt the Chosen, stagger the chosen so he's out of position. Yeah so hard to counter.

Git gud Ordah.
Following the same vague arguementation, these brilliant solutions can be done to any Rampage slayer, right?
Welcome to RoR and gz on your first 80. Now calm down and stop spamming Taunt forum posts, your post histroy reak..

Yes a single chosen in a 24v24 city fight might be able to get spotted and identified as the debuffer, you can put an enemy marker on him and assign someone to control this chosen. Just like with any Slayer in the same enviroment. This issue becomes when these meta classes are "stacked" and several run these troublesom abilities you need to control. Snarebreakers/rootbreakers and CC immunities make it hard to control one loose Chosen/Slayer, let alone several.

This issue would not had been as bad had the new Chosen tactic been on the least popular tankclass, just like if Rampage had been on a WH.
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No the raw stat value is absurd on its own, and the way to deliver it is even easier making this tactic insane. And rightfully should get reworked into a way smaller procentage (devs even admitted more than a 50% nerf on the value) That speaks volume when the first alteration needs such a downtuning.
As I said in my first post, the identity of the chosen as a damage-debuffer fits in on this career. Instead of trying to tackle critchance, as that will hurt melee classes and BW less so, maybe get this tactic back on the drawing board and make it something more well-rounded like "each time the Chosen takes a critical damage intake(internal cooldown 5sec) his Challenge ability is reduced by 2secounds" or something like that. Raw damage mitigating hits all damagedealers on order equally, critchance reduction would just be annoying on BW and destroy slayers+mdps in any damage output.
Its same "VAGUE ARGUMENTATION" that order players give when other abilities was overperforming => Maybe you need to read again this post about (STACKS of) slayers using ID+Rampage+CD reduction and we were told the **** same VARGUE ARGUMENTATION....and finally the "working as intended" cherry on top..

Plz read again:
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#285 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:51 pm

Magusar wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:43 pm Order's winrate on SC still lower than 50%
Where you gather that winrate?? just asking for a friend

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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#286 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:56 pm

put a requires greatsword and place a 5-10 sec ICD on individuals and let it roll.
-= Agony =-

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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#287 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:58 pm

emiliorv wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:51 pm
Magusar wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:43 pm Order's winrate on SC still lower than 50%
Where you gather that winrate?? just asking for a friend
Try to farm actual event every Friday-Saturday as order player. You dont do it.In my opinion this is a great illustration of this point.
City winrate is the secret?
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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#288 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:11 pm

JarlBerzirk wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:08 am Never forget the time order whined so hard they got the devs to rework a buff literally the same day it came out, without testing or anything. But its okay, destro are the biggest crybabies on the forums.

My sides have left orbit :lol: :lol:
A rework was promised even before testing....nothing more to add...

This looks like the Dire shielding nerf => nerfed into useless a few days after Fixed (was bugged since ever).....

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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#289 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:15 pm

Magusar wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:58 pm
Spoiler:
emiliorv wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:51 pm
Magusar wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:43 pm Order's winrate on SC still lower than 50%
Where you gather that winrate?? just asking for a friend
Try to farm actual event every Friday-Saturday as order player. You dont do it.In my opinion this is a great illustration of this point.
You mean that your own SC winrate its the same for the whole realm?? looks like you are one of those puggers farmed by premades in scs every weekend in BOTH realms..

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Re: Patch Notes 05/11/2020

Post#290 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:15 pm

People still defending this tactic :lol: I guess some people just want an easy game where they always win, like it used to be for Des in City instance

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