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Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

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Poll: Would you like to change the Warlord tier?

Yes, bump it up to Sovereign tier.
31
55%
No, keep it as it is.
25
45%
Total votes: 56

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NSKaneda
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Re: Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Post#11 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:56 pm

Warlord used to be rr65-70 set and gave quite a long usage time as one progressed to Sov. But since vanquisher appeared on stage and bumped invader to old warlord spot it got a little bit crowded. As of now it's a waste of currency since it's so close to (pricey) sovereign and the specialisation warlord supports... Well, it'd be better to buy warlord set with invader currency, keeping the stats and higher price.
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lyncher12
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Re: Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Post#12 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:12 pm

im not sure how you even bump it up to sov tier. both sets suffer from having some useless **** on it so its not even that crazy as a set

TreefAM
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Re: Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Post#13 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:30 pm

Lots of people add warlord pieces into their builds, there's literally no point to farm any of of the full sets, you just mix and match so it's good where it is.

DoomedDragon
Posts: 50

Re: Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Post#14 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:16 pm

Hugatsaga wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:31 pm Voted for warlord buff. Was thinking mostly about classes that have 3 clearly different and (more or less) viable specs (mostly dok / wp). Iirc for doks/wp's warlord is dual wield/2h dps set while sov and off sov are for heal & shield specs respectively. I dont see why dual wield / 2h dps spec should have worse stats than heal and shield set. SW and squig are probably in similar situation with skirmish / scout / assault spec.

I feel like many are missing the point of this proposal, Hugatsaga here is more in line of what I'm hoping a change for.
And that is to have an endgame set for each spec/branch of the skilltree.

TreefAM wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:30 pm Lots of people add warlord pieces into their builds, there's literally no point to farm any of of the full sets, you just mix and match so it's good where it is.

You are looking to min-max and that's fine, nothing wrong with that.
With this change you would still be able to mix, for a slightly higher price and more stats.
So I can't see what the problem is, unless you just want it to be a cheap stat stick.

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CountTalabecland
Posts: 979

Re: Bump up Warlord tier to Sovereign tier

Post#15 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:47 pm

It doesn’t make sense for Warlord to be worse than sov.

Given the slow rate of Royal acquisition and the abundance of renown, by the time you have full invader and fort weapons you should be able to use sov or close enough to it where you will be saving royals for sov. Buying warlord only slows your path to sov.

Sure some classes like Slayer will want the 3 piece bonus from warlord once they have 5 piece sov but thats due solely to the set bonus giving WS over warlord itself being a good set.
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