if i observed it correctly even losing is giving contribution (The Addon from idrinth says a value of 5 for a death)reyaloran wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:44 pmSo what happens if the contribution is 0 for everyone on one side? For example if we on NA destro try to go to fort and get the usual 100 v 6-20 will there be anything given out or will it be as current where its pointless for us to show up.dalen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:23 pmIt used to be an absolute amount of contribution required. Now the minimum is a certain percentage of the average or median (whichever is lower) contribution for all players in your realm.
In forts where your realm was heavily outnumbered it was difficult to meet the absolute contribution requirement, even if you did all you could.
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Well, that is not how contribution works.b00n wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:41 pmif i observed it correctly even losing is giving contribution (The Addon from idrinth says a value of 5 for a death)reyaloran wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:44 pmSo what happens if the contribution is 0 for everyone on one side? For example if we on NA destro try to go to fort and get the usual 100 v 6-20 will there be anything given out or will it be as current where its pointless for us to show up.dalen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:23 pm
It used to be an absolute amount of contribution required. Now the minimum is a certain percentage of the average or median (whichever is lower) contribution for all players in your realm.
In forts where your realm was heavily outnumbered it was difficult to meet the absolute contribution requirement, even if you did all you could.
But it is unlikely that you end up with zero contribution unless you just walk into the zone and do literally nothing.
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Confirmed this bug on the live server, team is looking into it now.Detangler wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:27 pm Cant buy any pies. ingredients that were in my bag before the patch wont go into the crafting inventory. new ingredients that are the same as the ones from before the patch get piled into the old ones that were in the standard inventory and wont go into the crafting bag.
In the meantime, you can also place any ingredients in crafting bag into your bank and then pull them back into your main bag as a temporary workaround, so the pie vendors will see them properly. More news on this as soon as we have it!
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Have you participated in a NA destro defense fort recently? All BOs capped within seconds, outnumbered at every BO, and then you wait to get steamrolled in lord room. The enterprising few can skate outside at stage 3 and potentially kill a few stragglers, but thats about it. How would that add up if you had zero chance to get to a BO to cap something before getting stomped by a max cap attackers vs 20 defenders?dalen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:32 pmWell, that is not how contribution works.
But it is unlikely that you end up with zero contribution unless you just walk into the zone and do literally nothing.
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First, NA Order is never at "max cap" for forts because NA doesn't have that population in general. It is usually somewhere between 80 and 110.Detangler wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:07 pmHave you participated in a NA destro defense fort recently? All BOs capped within seconds, outnumbered at every BO, and then you wait to get steamrolled in lord room. The enterprising few can skate outside at stage 3 and potentially kill a few stragglers, but thats about it. How would that add up if you had zero chance to get to a BO to cap something before getting stomped by a max cap attackers vs 20 defenders?
Second, "NA Order" usually has a WB worth of "NA Destro" who xrealm over b/c of the lack of rewards. If the rewards are there, that number may stick to their original side.
Try out the new calculations before declaring it pointless. The fact they made any change at all suggests they understand there is an issue and are trying to address it. Seems likely they will be open to making additional tweaks if needed.
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You can at least take one flag right at start, not sure whether this gives contri or not.Detangler wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:07 pm Have you participated in a NA destro defense fort recently? All BOs capped within seconds, outnumbered at every BO, and then you wait to get steamrolled in lord room. The enterprising few can skate outside at stage 3 and potentially kill a few stragglers, but thats about it. How would that add up if you had zero chance to get to a BO to cap something before getting stomped by a max cap attackers vs 20 defenders?
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Lol when did I declare it "pointless?" I was pointing out that it is quite possible to walk into an NA fort and literally have zero contribution because of the massive population imbalance.Aethilmar wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:38 pmFirst, NA Order is never at "max cap" for forts because NA doesn't have that population in general. It is usually somewhere between 80 and 110.Detangler wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:07 pmHave you participated in a NA destro defense fort recently? All BOs capped within seconds, outnumbered at every BO, and then you wait to get steamrolled in lord room. The enterprising few can skate outside at stage 3 and potentially kill a few stragglers, but thats about it. How would that add up if you had zero chance to get to a BO to cap something before getting stomped by a max cap attackers vs 20 defenders?
Second, "NA Order" usually has a WB worth of "NA Destro" who xrealm over b/c of the lack of rewards. If the rewards are there, that number may stick to their original side.
Try out the new calculations before declaring it pointless. The fact they made any change at all suggests they understand there is an issue and are trying to address it. Seems likely they will be open to making additional tweaks if needed.
Detangler and alts - 84 Chosen, other 40s - DoK, Zealot, SH, WE, BG, BO
Destro - Mostly Harmless
Tangler and alts - 8X IB, other 40s - RP, SM
Order - Most dishonorable
Destro - Mostly Harmless
Tangler and alts - 8X IB, other 40s - RP, SM
Order - Most dishonorable
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