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what63
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Re: iron breaker solobitz

Post#21 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:24 pm

Reivren27 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:30 am
jafh123 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:07 am
Reivren27 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:33 am

The thing is, he doesn't have any regeneration other than his boots, body, and shoulder pads.
And the refreshing pocket keg.

I don't understand what point you're trying to make... I'm saying that it's nice to see a 2h regen IB doing well and you're saying that "the thing is" that he uses items that provide regen...

I'm confused...
I'm saying that those 4 things combined give very little regen and that he's perfectly fine with a 2h build, unlike unicums that have max regen, including jewelry and talisman with 72 regen.
Respect to the author and tanks like him.
I mean not really (in regards to doing fine)? He has to crutch on pots even for straight 1v1s, in at least one of the fights against a fresh 40 without a statpot at that. I mean it's not like it's a hard rule not to or anything, but clearly not really in the same ballpark as actual duel builds that generally don't pot outside of 1vX.

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Pahakukka
Posts: 268

Re: iron breaker solobitz

Post#22 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:17 pm

what63 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:24 pm
Reivren27 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:30 am
jafh123 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:07 am

And the refreshing pocket keg.

I don't understand what point you're trying to make... I'm saying that it's nice to see a 2h regen IB doing well and you're saying that "the thing is" that he uses items that provide regen...

I'm confused...
I'm saying that those 4 things combined give very little regen and that he's perfectly fine with a 2h build, unlike unicums that have max regen, including jewelry and talisman with 72 regen.
Respect to the author and tanks like him.
I mean not really (in regards to doing fine)? He has to crutch on pots even for straight 1v1s, in at least one of the fights against a fresh 40 without a statpot at that. I mean it's not like it's a hard rule not to or anything, but clearly not really in the same ballpark as actual duel builds that generally don't pot outside of 1vX.
Are you referring to to zealot fight? Yeah casters are bane of my IB. Not much resists and little tools to catch kiters really. That combined with detaunts and im done for.

I do use pots usuaaly unless agreed duel. Its impossible to know if other guy is or not so its just simpler that everyone uses them at lakes. All habe access to them anyhows, so its mostly down if player has bothered to pick them up. Agreed duels at empty lakes/arena are different matter.

As gilgam mentioned i do use def weapons, mostly for stats tho. Parry oroc from earthshatter allowed me to drop parry from renown and add it to str/ws. Im running with 30ish base parry +weapon proc. So highish but not really a parry build. Often i been carrying just 1 type of pot as didnt feel like loggin main to craft more.

This build is nowhere perfect for soloroaming, i can think of several stronger setups. But it is very much possible to roam with weaker setups too, often its avtually bit more fun as you get more even matches. If everyone goes BIS it would be a rock paper scissor game more often, or just the one who gets better start wins.
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Sinisterror
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Re: iron breaker solobitz

Post#23 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:27 pm

Pahakukka wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:17 pm
what63 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:24 pm
Reivren27 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:30 am
I'm saying that those 4 things combined give very little regen and that he's perfectly fine with a 2h build, unlike unicums that have max regen, including jewelry and talisman with 72 regen.
Respect to the author and tanks like him.
I mean not really (in regards to doing fine)? He has to crutch on pots even for straight 1v1s, in at least one of the fights against a fresh 40 without a statpot at that. I mean it's not like it's a hard rule not to or anything, but clearly not really in the same ballpark as actual duel builds that generally don't pot outside of 1vX.
Are you referring to to zealot fight? Yeah casters are bane of my IB. Not much resists and little tools to catch kiters really. That combined with detaunts and im done for.

I do use pots usuaaly unless agreed duel. Its impossible to know if other guy is or not so its just simpler that everyone uses them at lakes. All habe access to them anyhows, so its mostly down if player has bothered to pick them up. Agreed duels at empty lakes/arena are different matter.

As gilgam mentioned i do use def weapons, mostly for stats tho. Parry oroc from earthshatter allowed me to drop parry from renown and add it to str/ws. Im running with 30ish base parry +weapon proc. So highish but not really a parry build. Often i been carrying just 1 type of pot as didnt feel like loggin main to craft more.

This build is nowhere perfect for soloroaming, i can think of several stronger setups. But it is very much possible to roam with weaker setups too, often its avtually bit more fun as you get more even matches. If everyone goes BIS it would be a rock paper scissor game more often, or just the one who gets better start wins.
Btw i noticed you dont use Stubborn as Stone against welfs which is VERY good espesially if you have 25% AA dmg skill as well. 50% AA haste + 300+ Corp resis wich is witchbrew and welf kisses. All those proc it as well. You should use it in every fight tbh because magical dmg proc activates this skill and the returns are very big for 5 grudge=)
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Pahakukka
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Re: iron breaker solobitz

Post#24 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:09 pm

Sinisterror wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:27 pm
Pahakukka wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:17 pm
what63 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:24 pm

I mean not really (in regards to doing fine)? He has to crutch on pots even for straight 1v1s, in at least one of the fights against a fresh 40 without a statpot at that. I mean it's not like it's a hard rule not to or anything, but clearly not really in the same ballpark as actual duel builds that generally don't pot outside of 1vX.
Are you referring to to zealot fight? Yeah casters are bane of my IB. Not much resists and little tools to catch kiters really. That combined with detaunts and im done for.

I do use pots usuaaly unless agreed duel. Its impossible to know if other guy is or not so its just simpler that everyone uses them at lakes. All habe access to them anyhows, so its mostly down if player has bothered to pick them up. Agreed duels at empty lakes/arena are different matter.

As gilgam mentioned i do use def weapons, mostly for stats tho. Parry oroc from earthshatter allowed me to drop parry from renown and add it to str/ws. Im running with 30ish base parry +weapon proc. So highish but not really a parry build. Often i been carrying just 1 type of pot as didnt feel like loggin main to craft more.

This build is nowhere perfect for soloroaming, i can think of several stronger setups. But it is very much possible to roam with weaker setups too, often its avtually bit more fun as you get more even matches. If everyone goes BIS it would be a rock paper scissor game more often, or just the one who gets better start wins.
Btw i noticed you dont use Stubborn as Stone against welfs which is VERY good espesially if you have 25% AA dmg skill as well. 50% AA haste + 300+ Corp resis wich is witchbrew and welf kisses. All those proc it as well. You should use it in every fight tbh because magical dmg proc activates this skill and the returns are very big for 5 grudge=)
You are right. For some reason i always forget the existense of it. Tho i keep forgetting taunt and punishing blow too so maybe someday i remember them all and be unstoppable!
Tinbitz rr8x BO
Daewuur rr8x Magus
Deawuur rr8x engineer
+ lots of rr50-60 toons, including 1 healer!

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