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Current Faction Split

In this section, you will find some advices and basics to start quietly ingame. Question like " I'm lvl 1, what shall i do?", "What class shall i pick?", will find some answers in this place.
Ashoris
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Re: Current Faction Split

Post#21 » Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:32 am

cabal852 wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 7:55 pm to OP: choose SW or WL. super op classes. thanks to me and devs then.
This says more about you than the classes.

You know why SW and WL are seen as OP by so many people ? because they have a high floor and are performing at an acceptable level even if you are only able to hit 3 buttons ...
on the other hand the dropoff in the hands of a good Player vs good Enemies is significant .... they just have glaring weaknesses that can easily be "exploited".
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Re: Current Faction Split

Post#22 » Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:59 pm

KuchiSlayer wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:56 pm I'm downloading the game right now, can someone advise on the current faction split for RvR?

I'll join the smaller/weaker side and if I know now it'll help me narrow down my race/profession for when I start.
Welcome to the best pvp mmo ever created.

As you can see from the answers no matter which side of the conflict you choose or class.
You can see from the forum users a big divergence.
Do not suggest them at all.
I have characters on two sides and I can tell you that this game has never in history been as well balanced as it is now (thanks devs).
This applies to both individual classes and sides of the conflict.
Choose the side you like better.

You will probably struggle in the beginning with the low population problem in t1 but if you get over that you will have a lot of fun with the game as long as you approach it the way it was designed to be played.

The game is based on tank/heal/dps cooperation.

So if you are going to die without support don't worry.
If you get killed by a player prepared to play solo don't worry. If he signs up for sc then the roles are reversed or if you find a group on orvr.

I am writing this because new players often complain in game chat that someone killed them solo.
The game is not balanced for solo play and if you meet an opponent who is prepared for such a game you don't stand a chance, because some specs and classes do better in such an environment.

Good luck
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Re: Current Faction Split

Post#23 » Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:28 pm

Alubert wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:59 pm
KuchiSlayer wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:56 pm I'm downloading the game right now, can someone advise on the current faction split for RvR?

I'll join the smaller/weaker side and if I know now it'll help me narrow down my race/profession for when I start.
Welcome to the best pvp mmo ever created.

As you can see from the answers no matter which side of the conflict you choose or class.
You can see from the forum users a big divergence.
Do not suggest them at all.
I have characters on two sides and I can tell you that this game has never in history been as well balanced as it is now (thanks devs).
This applies to both individual classes and sides of the conflict.
Choose the side you like better.

You will probably struggle in the beginning with the low population problem in t1 but if you get over that you will have a lot of fun with the game as long as you approach it the way it was designed to be played.

The game is based on tank/heal/dps cooperation.

So if you are going to die without support don't worry.
If you get killed by a player prepared to play solo don't worry. If he signs up for sc then the roles are reversed or if you find a group on orvr.

I am writing this because new players often complain in game chat that someone killed them solo.
The game is not balanced for solo play and if you meet an opponent who is prepared for such a game you don't stand a chance, because some specs and classes do better in such an environment.

Good luck
Great post and quite accurate in my opinion as a player of this game off and on since live. When things are active and there lots of battles lead by good warband leaders and good followers there is no better PVP game it’s just great fun. I still have not found a game that is more fun as far as PVP is concerned and I have tried them all :-) I am hopeful the population will grow once the balancing is completed.

Anyway thank you for posting a nice balanced observation of the realities of playing this game and managing expectations :-)


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Re: Current Faction Split

Post#24 » Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:51 pm

Destros hate the truth. Because accepting the truth would mean accepting that they are nothing but mindless blobbers.
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Re: Current Faction Split

Post#25 » Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:31 pm

Tisaya wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:51 pm Destros hate the truth. Because accepting the truth would mean accepting that they are nothing but mindless blobbers.

Duude, its mostly same players on both sides, some guilds play certain factions at certain time of the week. Only freebootaz and bitterstone can be trusted to stick to the faction, tho many players in those guilds have several toons in other guilds too .

Saying faction A does this or that is plain useless, if not downright stupid.
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Tisaya
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Re: Current Faction Split

Post#26 » Sat Oct 12, 2024 6:57 am

Pahakukka wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:31 pm
Tisaya wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:51 pm Destros hate the truth. Because accepting the truth would mean accepting that they are nothing but mindless blobbers.

Duude, its mostly same players on both sides, some guilds play certain factions at certain time of the week. Only freebootaz and bitterstone can be trusted to stick to the faction, tho many players in those guilds have several toons in other guilds too .

Saying faction A does this or that is plain useless, if not downright stupid.
This is false. Two factions have very distinctive playstyles with destro being much more cowardly, afraid to attack keeps and relying on blobs.

Destros always laugh to spam emotes when they kill outnumbered order.
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Re: Current Faction Split

Post#27 » Sat Oct 12, 2024 7:59 am

Paxsanarion wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:28 pmGreat post and quite accurate in my opinion as a player of this game off and on since live. When things are active and there lots of battles lead by good warband leaders and good followers there is no better PVP game it’s just great fun. I still have not found a game that is more fun as far as PVP is concerned and I have tried them all :-) I am hopeful the population will grow once the balancing is completed.

Anyway thank you for posting a nice balanced observation of the realities of playing this game and managing expectations :-)


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I personally think the game is only fun during lower population hours, during prime hours i find myself logging out since it's just about a mindless blob, progression is also pretty much none- existent ( outside of premade scenarios) during these hours. Of course that matters not to already fully geared characters (sov) which may just enjoy the war going on( especially ranged characters) but for those trying to progress it's just not a fun experience from that point of view since there is very little to be had ( i have both BIS toons and do alts from time to time).

I can easily see why RoR from a gameplay perspective just can't sustain new players unless they're very much into the warhammer lore etc or understand that playing during different hours( time zones) is like playing two different games.

Ultimately i think that speaks volumes of the faiilure which is the RoR campaign, it would need so many improvements to certain elements imho to make a more dynamic and fun experience to claim such a title - no better pvp game- , hence why RoR to me personally can be anything from great fun to unplayable. Classic WoW just by some random world pvp( even though the game was designed for endgame PVE raids) would be more far more enjoyable compared to RoR blob, zerg hours.

However there is a delicate sweetspot, too much players reveals the weakness of the RoR campaign, too few makes it a dead game , certain hours when the ''pop'' is just right the game can be enjoyable even to the point of claiming such a title( in a mmo context).
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jafh123
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Re: Current Faction Split

Post#28 » Sat Oct 12, 2024 7:59 am

Tisaya wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 6:57 am
Pahakukka wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:31 pm
Tisaya wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:51 pm Destros hate the truth. Because accepting the truth would mean accepting that they are nothing but mindless blobbers.

Duude, its mostly same players on both sides, some guilds play certain factions at certain time of the week. Only freebootaz and bitterstone can be trusted to stick to the faction, tho many players in those guilds have several toons in other guilds too .

Saying faction A does this or that is plain useless, if not downright stupid.
This is false. Two factions have very distinctive playstyles with destro being much more cowardly, afraid to attack keeps and relying on blobs.

Destros always laugh to spam emotes when they kill outnumbered order.
Most players have chars in both factions, so both factions act the same.

RvR in every game that has tried at it is all about zerging (outnumbering your enemy). It's pvp's pve cousin.

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Farrul
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Re: Current Faction Split

Post#29 » Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:11 am

Tisaya wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 6:57 amDestros always laugh to spam emotes when they kill outnumbered order.
I think to be fair this can observed for both factions ( i've seen several orders do the same thing). Imho those that emote ( outside of a rp/fun context, i.e greenskin vs dwarf etc) are individuals of a certain low quality/standard, i sincerely pity them since if one has to emote with such emotions through a video game, imagine how they must be to interact with in real life.

Anyways i have to disagree on this point since i've been around long enough to observe it with both factions, constantly.

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Re:Current Faction Split

Post#30 » Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:13 am

I abandoned order (parking my main for ranked scenarios) and decided to give a go in destro.
The only word I got is.... Dear god...

I found many guilds that actively recruit for "serious gameplay" are just a bunch of zerg guilds with clueless leaders and people that just spam "I am top dps so I am good you s+ck" or no comms at all.

On the other side, in random scenarios (EU time) happened to me to have a pleasant leveling walk. Yes, matchmaking is quite unbalanced, buit roughly, unlike order, I noticed destro got more shaman/doks sniffing around, many of them in heal spec.

To sum it up. Avoid rvr and focus on scenarios. Destro in rvr is a pathetic ragtag bunch of clown guilds acting pros but basically having the tactical awarness of a hamster eating hallucinogen mushrooms.
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