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Sulorie
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Re: Do SCs need a makeover? Balancing?

Post#51 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:03 am

joroth wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:13 am

this isn't really true. you can just look at titles most players are at some stage of sov, Also doesn't help that even winning these sc's sometimes will only net about 3k renown due to the other team giving up.


Edit: My last four SCs had a total of five deathblows. Maybe I'm just getting unlucky, and this is a small sample size, but winning an SC and getting 2000-5000 renown for the time investment just isn't really worth it, IMO.
In the same time frame you get less for rvr unless you are a dedicated solo roamer (which wouldn't play sc with their build) or in a premade.
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Re: Do SCs need a makeover? Balancing?

Post#52 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:37 pm

Sulorie wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:03 am
joroth wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:13 am

this isn't really true. you can just look at titles most players are at some stage of sov, Also doesn't help that even winning these sc's sometimes will only net about 3k renown due to the other team giving up.


Edit: My last four SCs had a total of five deathblows. Maybe I'm just getting unlucky, and this is a small sample size, but winning an SC and getting 2000-5000 renown for the time investment just isn't really worth it, IMO.
In the same time frame you get less for rvr unless you are a dedicated solo roamer (which wouldn't play sc with their build) or in a premade.

I think SC's in general should give a base value of renown, win or lose. Because I think most players have encountered a scenario, your online alone, friends have not logged in yet and you want to queue the weekend sc and just keep running into 6 man premades. your side never gets a kill and each queue is a 5-10min surrender vote. Half your time is afk in spawn cause there's no hope.

Your options are quit queing and try later which I think is bad for the game, or queue into a meat grinder hoping you'll dodge them. If we change player rewards to make it still feel a little worth your time to queue into the meat grinder and player both sides can obtain something of value and have an overall better experience.

I think making a weekly SC instead of a weekend one can work or a solo queue option, where queuing solo will give you a buff offering x% more reknown. I'm not really a game dev so I'll leave it up to them, but I think if SC's become more player-friendly over all it will be a welcomed change. I'm 100% for giving players more ways to enjoy the game
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Rapzel
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Re: Do SCs need a makeover? Balancing?

Post#53 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:43 pm

Sulorie wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:03 am
joroth wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:13 am

this isn't really true. you can just look at titles most players are at some stage of sov, Also doesn't help that even winning these sc's sometimes will only net about 3k renown due to the other team giving up.


Edit: My last four SCs had a total of five deathblows. Maybe I'm just getting unlucky, and this is a small sample size, but winning an SC and getting 2000-5000 renown for the time investment just isn't really worth it, IMO.
In the same time frame you get less for rvr unless you are a dedicated solo roamer (which wouldn't play sc with their build) or in a premade.
Uh? You get the bonus renown from BOs, that AFAIK does not get applied to SCs. 30-40 kills in the weekend SC gave me just above 6k renown last week. 30 - 40 kills in open is about 15k + zone lock bonus, which now days is massive.

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Re: Do SCs need a makeover? Balancing?

Post#54 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:06 pm

Rapzel wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:43 pm Uh? You get the bonus renown from BOs, that AFAIK does not get applied to SCs. 30-40 kills in the weekend SC gave me just above 6k renown last week. 30 - 40 kills in open is about 15k + zone lock bonus, which now days is massive.
Those struggling the most can't get kills on their own in zone and at best join an open warband where not all parties have similar kill contribution. When your side isn't taking zone, you can forget most of the lock bonuses as well.
Being on the winning side in sc, even if solo, e.g. the premade is on your side, you get a lot more renown. The circumstances matter, either activity can be inefficient. :)
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Re: Do SCs need a makeover? Balancing?

Post#55 » Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:03 am

Exactly. Destro is dominating rvr. No good organised wbs, just lowbie pugs who get like 20 kills after an hour of playing. I jump into scs, solo. Some nice premade is also spamming the same sc. 4-6k rps and 10/11 crests every 5 mins or so. In a hour time I get 100 crests and 40-60k rp. Obviously, there are times when exact opposite happens or destro is dominating both scs and rvr. Then I just do pve or leech some supplies :)

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