Return of Reckoning

Really it depends what your 6 man will look at doing if its pure sc take left and middle trees but if you are doing more orvr left and right trees are probably better.

Keyser wrote:I would prefer this spec
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=cho ... :4791:4792:

no this is not the right way to go, in 6v6 you will definatly have an source of 50% inc heal debuff there fore the 25% aura is unnecessary and is better to have mixed defenses instead

Farheim wrote:Dude pls, 6v6 def chosen?
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=cho ... 0:;0:0:0:0:
Classic.

2h chosen is not needed by anyone in 6v6 the fact that you cant use destined for victory, nor that you can guard as well as a SnB tank, and also that SnB chosens can apply crippling strikes basicically almost as well as 2h chosen strongly reduces your viability to go 2h

Farheim wrote:

Keyser wrote:I would prefer this spec
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=cho ... :4791:4792:

This one s great also, but requires 70RR

So then probably just this: waronlinebuilder.org - Chosen build

For this upcoming T4 since I think RR55 is what will be max....

Farheim wrote:Dude pls, 6v6 def chosen?
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=cho ... 0:;0:0:0:0:
Classic.

LOL My favourite chosen EVAH!

Attack is the best defense.

TenTonHammer wrote:

Keyser wrote:I would prefer this spec
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=cho ... :4791:4792:

no this is not the right way to go, in 6v6 you will definatly have an source of 50% inc heal debuff there fore the 25% aura is unnecessary and is better to have mixed defenses instead

Some reasons why to use healdebuff
1. As a chosen you only need two auras with str-, tough- or res. The other auras besides healdebuff are way too weak.
2. Cleansing Wind
(3. Sometimes usual healdebuffs get cleansed even if thats very unlikely.)

Mixed Defense is not really necessary. As a SnB chosen you are probably the last player who will get focused. It is more probably to get punted away. Therefore it is more useful to get rid of Snares and get back to your grp faster and there are not many ways to get rid of ib- & kotbs-snares besides cleansing wind, dok m2 or juggernaut.

TenTonHammer wrote:
2h chosen is not needed by anyone in 6v6 the fact that you cant use destined for victory, nor that you can guard as well as a SnB tank, and also that SnB chosens can apply crippling strikes basicically almost as well as 2h chosen strongly reduces your viability to go 2h

If I had to guess the 6v6 tank meta for destro is going to be chosen+BO, I think only one of them would need to be SnB for the morale pump. BO doesn't need to go 2H, but chosen gets some nice stuff when they do.

Edit: if the morale pump is so OP that every destro tank is running it no matter what I really hope it gets nerfed. It will be really fun playing against destro 6 mans when they have 20 seconds of FU if the fight lasts longer than a minute. It will also makes tanks like BG obsolete.

TenTonHammer wrote: and also that SnB chosens can apply crippling strikes basicically almost as well as 2h chosen

Not one bit. Firstly, u dont ve that +15 crit chance tactic, and more importantly, you cant use rending blade, which allows to apply crippling basicly on all targets nearby. Thats like aoe taunt with almost 100% uptime. 2H chosen isnt that tanky and can-like, yes, but he's the most viable DD-tank with that aoe crippling.

Jaycub wrote:
Edit: if the morale pump is so OP that every destro tank is running it no matter what I really hope it gets nerfed. It will be really fun playing against destro 6 mans when they have 20 seconds of FU if the fight lasts longer than a minute. It will also makes tanks like BG obsolete.

X2 morale builders allows allows chosen to focus on ID or distracting bellow but Bo tank can cycle between We iz bigger, quit squabblein or distracting bellow, its not all about cycling immaculate defense

even without morale pump on BO, BG is kinda obsolete me and Gob have already talked about why

Farheim wrote: Not one bit. Firstly, u dont ve that +15 crit chance tactic, and more importantly, you cant use rending blade, which allows to apply crippling basicly on all targets nearby. Thats like aoe taunt with almost 100% uptime. 2H chosen isnt that tanky and can-like, yes, but he's the most viable DD-tank with that aoe crippling.

Crit chance is kinda is irrelevent with BO iniative stat steal to inc target crit chance by like 300% or something

25 ft cone vs blast wave's 20 ft 360 AoE rending blade is not necessary

Keyser wrote: 1. As a chosen you only need two auras with str-, tough- or res. The other auras besides healdebuff are way too

str tough and resists are mandatory they not only buff you but also buff your groupmates as well and is needed to cancel out KOTBS auras

Jaycub wrote:
If I had to guess the 6v6 tank meta for destro is going to be chosen+BO, I think only one of them would need to be SnB for the morale pump. BO doesn't need to go 2H, but chosen gets some nice stuff when they do.

Why would only one of them dump M4? Imo the ability is strong enough to warrant both tanks to cycle it

Farheim wrote: Not one bit. Firstly, u dont ve that +15 crit chance tactic, and more importantly, you cant use rending blade, which allows to apply crippling basicly on all targets nearby. Thats like aoe taunt with almost 100% uptime. 2H chosen isnt that tanky and can-like, yes, but he's the most viable DD-tank with that aoe crippling.

6v6, so we are talking about 2 DPS and maybe 1 offensive tank. 3 targets to apply CS
First of all, you need a tactic slot for 15% critchance. You spec a whole tree just to get rending blade.
For a debuff that does not even stack with Challenge. I am not saying CS is bad, but I am not sure if 2 tactic slots and a full skilltree is worth it. Compared to just getting CS and relying on regular ~30% Critchance which only gets higher when you have a BO

Shadowgurke wrote:
6v6, so we are talking about 2 DPS and maybe 1 offensive tank. 3 targets to apply CS
First of all, you need a tactic slot for 15% critchance. You spec a whole tree just to get rending blade.

And what s the problem? There are no other masterbuild for a 2H chosen but that and http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=cho ... :;;0:0:0:0:
that. Third skill tree is a complete garbage and 15% critchance is a core tactic for a DD chosen. Aaand rending blade is a very decent aoe spell, only 5s cd, the dmg is only slightly lower than ravages dmg.