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Re: Kill Quest Nerfs and BO/Keep Nerfs

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:25 pm
by Morf
reactor24 wrote:
Sure, but where are the players in T2? No where most of the time, and when they are there, they are just camping the WC now because there is no incentive to anything else.

You should be rewarded for capping zones, even if there is no player, but just reward more when there are players.

i see your point but if the players mentality is to just camp a wc or go from objective to wc over and over dont blame the system blame the players for being lame, sure the rvr mechanics right now isnt amazing or can be seen to not help the situation but its the players fault for being brainless imo.

Re: Kill Quest Nerfs and BO/Keep Nerfs

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:26 pm
by reactor24
Tekkss wrote:
Morf wrote:
Tekkss wrote:I just flipped 2 zones in T2 and went from Lvl 16 4% to Lvl 16 11%.
fun....
Maybe this is telling you to fight other players instead of capping undefended objectives ?
HOW?
Should I just create some? If they are not going to even try to defend keep what should I do?
Exactly, why should you be punished with no rewards because the other faction isn't defending.

Bring the rewards back to what they were pre-patch, and give BONUS when there are players to promote PvP but also not punishing players because no one defend...

Re: Kill Quest Nerfs and BO/Keep Nerfs

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:28 pm
by Morf
Tekkss wrote:
HOW?
Should I just create some? If they are not going to even try to defend keep what should I do?
Dont blame the system for players brainless mentality to chose to avoid fights, sure as i said above the mechanics doesnt help to much and i expect it to change in the future but its the players fault for wanting easymode pve for points instead of wanting to bash each others head in for fun.

Re: Kill Quest Nerfs and BO/Keep Nerfs

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:29 pm
by Halhammer
What Morfee said. Nobody should be rewarded for PvE keep takes, BO capping or empty zone locks, at least not with PvP gear (or the currency to buy it).

On paper the changes sound good to me; right now siege is broken, that is what's causing the empty lakes. Once that is fixed RvR should be fine. If not, then is the time to discuss the changes - not now.

Re: Kill Quest Nerfs and BO/Keep Nerfs

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:29 pm
by Ainianu
I personally quite like the removal of xp from BO, and i would not be objectionable to the removal of kill quests, although a few just for the medals/inf would be ok.

But i would like to see (to offset the lowered xp from those activities) increased xp/rr/inf from player kills. It is rare you are in a situation where you cannot get kills in RvR, at least some!, and if you are on AAO the increased xp would only make it more worth the underdogs sticking around to defend etc.

Re: Kill Quest Nerfs and BO/Keep Nerfs

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:47 pm
by catholicism198
Yeah, Scenarios are great! I love getting steam rolled by Order premades nonstop. I'll get fully geared in a matter of months, if I'm lucky, with the 1-4 Emblems, if I'm lucky, per hour.

Re: Kill Quest Nerfs and BO/Keep Nerfs

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 7:14 pm
by mitu
t3 is worst. nobody is in there, how am i supposed to level a healer with no one else to play? bugged quests? bugged pqs? grind with a healer? =p

Re: Kill Quest Nerfs and BO/Keep Nerfs

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 7:25 pm
by bloodi
Morf wrote:Dont blame the system for players brainless mentality to chose to avoid fights, sure as i said above the mechanics doesnt help to much and i expect it to change in the future but its the players fault for wanting easymode pve for points instead of wanting to bash each others head in for fun.
Its "blame the game, not the player" not the opposite.

And for a reason.

Re: Kill Quest Nerfs and BO/Keep Nerfs

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 7:30 pm
by RyanMakara
catholicism198 wrote:Yeah, Scenarios are great! I love getting steam rolled by Order premades nonstop. I'll get fully geared in a matter of months, if I'm lucky, with the 1-4 Emblems, if I'm lucky, per hour.
Protip: Be a part of your own premade in scenarios. They are, after all, designed for group play. You can't complain about getting killed by a group of organised players when scenarios are all about killing in a group of organised players.

Re: Kill Quest Nerfs and BO/Keep Nerfs

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 8:10 pm
by walker68
right now T4 orvr you are either the farmer or the farmed..... nothing but one huge zerg fest running from WC to WC....