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Re: Feedback farmer eat gamer

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:12 am
by szejoza
This thread is so pointless, why remove the only thing that separates mmo from fps - gear

Re: Feedback farmer eat gamer

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:51 am
by kweedko
Ninepaces wrote: premades don't stomp for the rr...that is the talk of someone who doesn't understand. Anyone can get rr and medals in a pug wb. Premades stomp because they can... for fame, for the thrill of going 1 party vs 1 warband, for action, for the challenge of having to play their class to the best standard, and above all they stomp for that rush when the fog clears and enemy bodies are dead everywhere around them and they're still alive.
Lol wut premades is all about easymode grinding the pug, get the higest gear and stomp harder, where did you saw a premade without op classes most of them WP BW RP KTOBS SLAYER wombocombo, there is no thrill in that you just facerolnig the pug that can't resist, there is no challenge in that, and what they doing - atacking the keeps in small numbers or riding the zerg to victory no they just rp gear farming, if enemy too much they just go away in search for easy fights this is premades of this game.

Yesterday i saw A SMART ORC rollin his role play minizerg an that was the spirit of war they fought no matter what they died hundred times but keep fighting stomped to the ground by premade but res and go fighting, "premades" don't doing that they fought only with advantage it's shame on them.

Re: Feedback farmer eat gamer

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:56 pm
by Ninepaces
Easymode? There is nothing easy about 6 man vs 24. So many premades fail because people are bad or even average. You need exceptional players to overcome numbers disadvantage. As for the rest of what you said... I am arguing that premades dont exist for easy farm, they exist because they enjoy winning. That orc you mentioned, gj to him, but getting farmed isnt good, for him or for the realm.

Re: Feedback farmer eat gamer

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:02 pm
by Luicetarro
So you would enjoy a button, for insta 40/40 (or whatever rr might get used for that). With unified equip, so ppl would fight all on equal power, without thinking about farming stuff.

Some games will make such things on testserver, or for competitions. They barely work outside events.

Re: Feedback farmer eat gamer

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:10 pm
by kweedko
Ninepaces wrote:Easymode? There is nothing easy about 6 man vs 24. So many premades fail because people are bad or even average. You need exceptional players to overcome numbers disadvantage. As for the rest of what you said... I am arguing that premades dont exist for easy farm, they exist because they enjoy winning. That orc you mentioned, gj to him, but getting farmed isnt good, for him or for the realm.
There is noting wrong to been farmed untill people realise it there will be no fights, cause cowards with poin of view like this game is lacking of fights. 6 vs 24 Easy as hell with OP ROFLSTOMP classes - ignore tanks kill squishes kill heals pug will start runing after couple of first death - kill disorganised puglings.

Re: Feedback farmer eat gamer

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:29 pm
by Ninepaces
Luicetarro wrote:So you would enjoy a button, for insta 40/40 (or whatever rr might get used for that). With unified equip, so ppl would fight all on equal power, without thinking about farming stuff.

Some games will make such things on testserver, or for competitions. They barely work outside events.
yes. if it were up to me everyone would have max gear max level and just enjoy fighting in warzone for realm pride. but for practical reasons since most people DONT think like me, that would kill most people's motivation to fight so i'm ok with how it is now. i do still want to see incentives for fighting months down the line when a lot of people have maxed their characters..... maybe stuff like titles or scoreboards or aesthetic rewards.
kweedko wrote:
There is noting wrong to been farmed untill people realise it there will be no fights, cause cowards with poin of view like this game is lacking of fights. 6 vs 24 Easy as hell with OP ROFLSTOMP classes - ignore tanks kill squishes kill heals pug will start runing after couple of first death - kill disorganised puglings.
Ye ok 6v24 is easy. maybe 6 premade + friendly pugs vs pug warband is easy.

Re: Feedback farmer eat gamer

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:52 pm
by Vigfuss
kweedko wrote: There is noting wrong to been farmed untill people realise it there will be no fights, cause cowards with poin of view like this game is lacking of fights. 6 vs 24 Easy as hell with OP ROFLSTOMP classes - ignore tanks kill squishes kill heals pug will start runing after couple of first death - kill disorganised puglings.
Why are you not doing this? The option to get organized is available to all players, and the gear gap is small right now.

It's not fair to criticize the people who put the effort in to play with the same people a few nights a week. Doing that is worth it, and it takes quite a bit of effort and it goes beyond individual player skill, even though that's also really important. If you're a casual player or you want to play strange specs, you shouldn't expect amazing results. And there is nothing wrong with joining a pug warband, but I think a player's expectations should not exceed the effort they're willing to put in.

Re: Feedback farmer eat gamer

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:31 pm
by Gachimuchi
Vigfuss wrote:Why are you not doing this? The option to get organized is available to all players, and the gear gap is small right now.

It's not fair to criticize the people who put the effort in to play with the same people a few nights a week. Doing that is worth it, and it takes quite a bit of effort and it goes beyond individual player skill, even though that's also really important. If you're a casual player or you want to play strange specs, you shouldn't expect amazing results. And there is nothing wrong with joining a pug warband, but I think a player's expectations should not exceed the effort they're willing to put in.
B/c scrubbery and he got destroyed one time solo queing as DPS zealot by a melee-train premade and needed something to complain about and deflect blame of why he lost.

Re: Feedback farmer eat gamer

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:40 pm
by kweedko
Vigfuss wrote:
Why are you not doing this? The option to get organized is available to all players, and the gear gap is small right now.

It's not fair to criticize the people who put the effort in to play with the same people a few nights a week. Doing that is worth it, and it takes quite a bit of effort and it goes beyond individual player skill, even though that's also really important. If you're a casual player or you want to play strange specs, you shouldn't expect amazing results. And there is nothing wrong with joining a pug warband, but I think a player's expectations should not exceed the effort they're willing to put in.
Cause i don't give a frog about BIAS premades in this game i saw everyting(on off i got almost every class chars 80+ rr) and only one thing bothers me now on this server in this game it's MELEEDDZEALOTPARTYAGEOFPWNAGE :mrgreen: