Return of Reckoning

saupreusse wrote:We WILL get rid of x-realming. At least in this scale.

roadkillrobin wrote:

zazie wrote:I've found order runs a lot more premades, and a lot of them don't really roam. I solo que a lot for destro and the majority of the matches I get its atleast an order premade and a bunch of random destro.

I find it weird that more of these order premades don't collaborate and run together in atleast 2 groups because the majority of destro WB's I see have 1 group thats balanced and the others are just tossed together full of whatever class with maybe 1 healer.

Alas most of these order premades are basically just based around their ST Rotation BW's who kill someone every 10 seconds because most destro healers don't cleanse and their 2h DPS tanks just train whatever comes into their backlines with ease.

Honestly if order was more organized and team oriented like destro the T4 oRvR scene would be much different but it seems as if a lot of the order guilds/premades are just out for themselves.

Moast of the scenario preemades arn't really intreasteed in strategy or their impact on the long term goal of the campain, ORVR is about strategy. They basicly only cares about the kill/death ratio and their personal progression. It's the reason why they ignore objetives in SC and why they don't cooporates with pugs. This is usually the reason they don't team up with others in ORVR aswell. You often see these guys complaing about zergs and AoE spamming even when it's just 3-4 groups doin it. Their group setups, specs and numbers arnt optimal for these situations so it's easier for them to que up for scenarios. A "safe" enviorment were there is a limit of how many players they have to deal with that doesn't mess to much with their KD/Ratio.

huntergregg wrote:I'm not sure I really care how they implement a fix to xrealming as long as it works. Why would anyone care except those that xrealm?

zazie wrote:

roadkillrobin wrote:

zazie wrote:I've found order runs a lot more premades, and a lot of them don't really roam. I solo que a lot for destro and the majority of the matches I get its atleast an order premade and a bunch of random destro.

I find it weird that more of these order premades don't collaborate and run together in atleast 2 groups because the majority of destro WB's I see have 1 group thats balanced and the others are just tossed together full of whatever class with maybe 1 healer.

Alas most of these order premades are basically just based around their ST Rotation BW's who kill someone every 10 seconds because most destro healers don't cleanse and their 2h DPS tanks just train whatever comes into their backlines with ease.

Honestly if order was more organized and team oriented like destro the T4 oRvR scene would be much different but it seems as if a lot of the order guilds/premades are just out for themselves.

Moast of the scenario preemades arn't really intreasteed in strategy or their impact on the long term goal of the campain, ORVR is about strategy. They basicly only cares about the kill/death ratio and their personal progression. It's the reason why they ignore objetives in SC and why they don't cooporates with pugs. This is usually the reason they don't team up with others in ORVR aswell. You often see these guys complaing about zergs and AoE spamming even when it's just 3-4 groups doin it. Their group setups, specs and numbers arnt optimal for these situations so it's easier for them to que up for scenarios. A "safe" enviorment were there is a limit of how many players they have to deal with that doesn't mess to much with their KD/Ratio.

Aye I get that, I just find it funny how these premades roll with their Meta build and just run over pugs all day and get 40+ kills and make 600renown a scen. Back in the AOR days the fun and glory was smashing a zerg, not running over 12 randoms who got placed together in a Khaines Embrace.

Maybe its just me but after playing DAOC as long as I did oRvR zerg stomping was the funnest, or randomly running into another roaming 6-8man, scens were fun to do as a change of pace, I just cant see what these premades are after in terms of "fun game play" when all they do is smash their 1-2 nerf button keys and their WASD and run over players who are severly undergeared/skilled >_<

roadkillrobin wrote:Prime time yesterday was 53/47 to order in t4 so....