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Re: A question for the devs. Not downtime related.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:34 pm
by neutrino
Wait a second.....can a magus walk? or at least let our disk hover at full speed over water!

Re: A question for the devs. Not downtime related.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:54 pm
by Valfaros
Londo wrote:All mounts (and some npcs) can be mounted by all races. However, there is a consensus to stick to the lore.
Yes sticking to the lore is important but I can't believe that there weren't special guys in the books which were like:"Screw this I don't want a normal horse I want a beast as my mount"

With max RR you should rather be one of those special guys^^

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Here like this champion of the nurgle

Somewhere far far in the future that would be pretty cool

Re: A question for the devs. Not downtime related.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:09 pm
by Azarael
We have the consensus of sticking to the lore partly because GW are known to care a lot about how their IP is represented. We will not deviate from what was explicitly authorized in Warhammer Online by GW when it comes to racial identity.

This is a hard limit. It's not worth drawing dangerous negative attention over something as trivial as the type of mounts that a race can use. This stance won't be revised.

Re: A question for the devs. Not downtime related.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:59 pm
by Gachimuchi
Azarael wrote:We have the consensus of sticking to the lore partly because GW are known to care a lot about how their IP is represented. We will not deviate from what was explicitly authorized in Warhammer Online by GW when it comes to racial identity.

This is a hard limit. It's not worth drawing dangerous negative attention over something as trivial as the type of mounts that a race can use. This stance won't be revised.
Then it's settled then, malesorcs are to be removed from the game.

Re: A question for the devs. Not downtime related.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:09 pm
by Sejanus
Could always have a throne like Grudgebearer and be carried around by thronebearers. I like TW's rendition of gyrocopters though. They look more Dawi then the ones in WAR that look like the Wright brothers helped make them.

Re: A question for the devs. Not downtime related.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:11 pm
by cemen
Gachimuchi wrote:
Azarael wrote:We have the consensus of sticking to the lore partly because GW are known to care a lot about how their IP is represented. We will not deviate from what was explicitly authorized in Warhammer Online by GW when it comes to racial identity.

This is a hard limit. It's not worth drawing dangerous negative attention over something as trivial as the type of mounts that a race can use. This stance won't be revised.
Then it's settled then, malesorcs are to be removed from the game.

also remove white lion pet cause lore-wise, white lions killed the lion for their pelt / prestige of the hunt.. they didnt keep them as pets.

i can try... :D

Re: A question for the devs. Not downtime related.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:15 pm
by Dabbart
Spoiler:
Gachimuchi wrote:
Azarael wrote:We have the consensus of sticking to the lore partly because GW are known to care a lot about how their IP is represented. We will not deviate from what was explicitly authorized in Warhammer Online by GW when it comes to racial identity.

This is a hard limit. It's not worth drawing dangerous negative attention over something as trivial as the type of mounts that a race can use. This stance won't be revised.
Then it's settled then, malesorcs are to be removed from the game.
in the battlefield, Sorcerers destroy whole legions of warriors with the slightest movement of their hand. In the Warhammer Lore, apart from the first Sorcerers who allied with Malekith during the Sundering, male Sorcerers are technically banished from Naggaroth and are hunted and killed by the convents of Sorceresses. This is due to a prophecy the Elf mage Caledor Dragontamer gave when Aenarion drew the Sword of Khaine: "A 'Dark Lord' (whom Malekith believes to be himself) would die at that hands of one 'skilled in the Dark Arts'." However in the Age of Reckoning Malekith has announced an amnesty on male Sorcerers, as long as they join the forces taking part in the invasion of Ulthuan.

http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Sorcerer


Your reading comprehension needs to be improved as well, RE: The bolded part of Aza's statement.

Edit, My tags went funky...

Re: A question for the devs. Not downtime related.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:37 pm
by Gachimuchi
Dabbart wrote: in the battlefield, Sorcerers destroy whole legions of warriors with the slightest movement of their hand. In the Warhammer Lore, apart from the first Sorcerers who allied with Malekith during the Sundering, male Sorcerers are technically banished from Naggaroth and are hunted and killed by the convents of Sorceresses. This is due to a prophecy the Elf mage Caledor Dragontamer gave when Aenarion drew the Sword of Khaine: "A 'Dark Lord' (whom Malekith believes to be himself) would die at that hands of one 'skilled in the Dark Arts'." However in the Age of Reckoning Malekith has announced an amnesty on male Sorcerers, as long as they join the forces taking part in the invasion of Ulthuan.

http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Sorcerer


Your reading comprehension needs to be improved as well, RE: The bolded part of Aza's statement.

Edit, My tags went funky...
And the whole 'amnesty' is their shitty bandaid fix to the lore when they decided to have male sorcs in the game at the last minute. What that summary fails to cover is that the Sorceresses are all ritually married off to Malekith so they won't kill him(or at least that's the idea). That obviously isn't the case with male sorcerers. They don't exist because all of the budding ones get killed off. It seems to me that the male sorc thing was a corporate decision and GW managed to shoehorn it in. Otherwise they wouldn't have bothered.

As for my reading comprehension, it is perfectly fine. Removing male sorcs would not compromise the racial identity of Dark Elves... at all. Perhaps you should lay off a bit, my post was made mostly in jest.

Re: A question for the devs. Not downtime related.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:54 pm
by Dabbart
Gachimuci, one of these days you might actually admit to being wrong... Aza said quite clearly they are wanting to work within the Lore that was GW approved for this game. You used that logic to state that means all Male Sorcs will be removed. Which is incorrect due to the posting I made...

Your opinion on the overall Lore of Warhammer has nothing to do with it. And anyone who has read your avg post would know that the "mostly in jest" is a farce. Not to mention if your opinion was actually true, then they would of allowed Male WEs in the form of assassin's, which would actually be Lore friendly.

Meh. The overall "lore" of WAR is lacking in various ways in regards to the TT/books of Warhammer Fantasy. They compromised for the sake of a game. But they did so with the approval of GW. That was the entire point.

Re: A question for the devs. Not downtime related.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:40 pm
by Gachimuchi
Dabbart wrote:Gachimuci, one of these days you might actually admit to being wrong... Aza said quite clearly they are wanting to work within the Lore that was GW approved for this game. You used that logic to state that means all Male Sorcs will be removed. Which is incorrect due to the posting I made...

Your opinion on the overall Lore of Warhammer has nothing to do with it. And anyone who has read your avg post would know that the "mostly in jest" is a farce. Not to mention if your opinion was actually true, then they would of allowed Male WEs in the form of assassin's, which would actually be Lore friendly.

Meh. The overall "lore" of WAR is lacking in various ways in regards to the TT/books of Warhammer Fantasy. They compromised for the sake of a game. But they did so with the approval of GW. That was the entire point.
If I actually had any vested interest in removal of male sorcs from the game(I honestly don't care), I would have typed up a long and thought-out post. For someone so acquainted with my posts you should know this.

Besides, a thing as fickle as warhammer lore with the primary source being dated wiki pages is hardly something worth arguing over. If I had to guess I would extrapolate that corporate did indeed suggest WE and Sorcs both have male character selection, but were satiated with just one. I agree on the point of if male WEs were allowed, calling them Assassins would work and be perfectly lore friendly.