Return of Reckoning

Melee dps don't need guard. If he is 1v1 against tank or another melee dps cheance are equal. Melee dps need hold the line and protection against enemy fire which should give him also his own RDPS, but the are always far behind busy attacking tanks and running away to his WC. The best option for melee dps is stay behind (I know this is not Impossible) his own RDPS or between them (I know this is also not Impossible).

BrockRiefenstahl wrote:Problem that I realized was: orders are so unused to have "real Tanks" that they let their only tank at frontline alone and just run away.

A tank should never be outside the range of the person they are guarding. If you are all alone and your group has moved away or moved back due to pressure, then you NOT them are the one to blame here. Yes you need to fallback with the group, otherwise its called overextending....

forgot to mention this
don't be afraid to die
also bear in mind that if you die order loses wall
try your best to stay alive except hide behind, when inevitable comes, accept you fate
be proud of that they needed 4+ to take you down

Kali14 wrote:Same like true warriors don't need healers.

often this is true, whether there are heals or not just stand up
you choose to play tank you will die a lot

ps. destro stories are different one they have tons of melees

The main problem of Order is many gamers which are playing without voice coordinations, without ping each other to their role.

Yesterday we fight in Praag with 3 party vs 2 WB Destraction, we win some fights couse our aoe dds was togather, and theirs tanks was with them. It is simple

Warbozz Blakkskar gotz to wordz 'or ya nazty zoogin 'ummiez! Ye wil neva be as tugh as da orkz! 'Or we arre da orkz and yuz iz notz and to da boyz! Ya BEZT BE 'HINKING ABOTZ Joinin MY WAAAGH! YA DIORTY SQUIG HUGGERZ!

Valarion wrote:

BrockRiefenstahl wrote:Problem that I realized was: orders are so unused to have "real Tanks" that they let their only tank at frontline alone and just run away.

A tank should never be outside the range of the person they are guarding. If you are all alone and your group has moved away or moved back due to pressure, then you NOT them are the one to blame here. Yes you need to fallback with the group, otherwise its called overextending....

Overextending = you push as a team to far in the enemy lines.

What I am talking about = Order sees Destrus before even real contact is made they turn around and run away... The fact that I am already tanking 2-3 Destrus does not let me go anywhere. This is nothing else than fear of big green fugly Melees.

I dunno about you but I can soak plenty of damage without guarding anyone...

Swordmaster never don't guard nobody and he always
play without shield. This is bad, does he even have healdebuff?

RyanMakara wrote:I dunno about you but I can soak plenty of damage without guarding anyone...

I could tank around 3 Ppl whacking at me (without heal) for quite a while. But I try to avoid guarding WH's Those dudes seem to generally forgetting their AOE-Detaunt and I was wondering somethimes: "WOOOT O.ô why the hell am I dropping like a BW", when ~4 ppl smack him

The MDPS who run in head on against 12 people without guard are just as brainless tbh fam. Maybe 1 in 10,000 mdps know how to play without guard in scenarios or it seems that way when im healing people.

And those mdps who play """well""" without gaurd would be doing 10x more on a RDPS.