Return of Reckoning

trebla wrote:

Spoiler:

NO sugar coating it, it suck NA primetime. You run into the same over geared 6mans destroying destro small WB just casually playing. Every now then you will see a destroy 6 man but they are far and few who actually run optimal setups.
Same WL's I won't name so they do not get the satisfaction, killing 3+ ppl or 6mans who play casually and for some fun.
So yea I can attest to friends quitting cause of that.
Many destroy just sit in WC or do boring **** like craft before getting so bored they log out.

So on the forum the Majority of posters are Fan boy/girls who will argue the opposite but if you want to hear the from the casuals just ask in advice chat, where the pulse of the community resides, not in this forum where the hardcore and devs will say other wise.

Sad but true.
The premades are actually so thirsty they'll even chase solos across the map.

*these comment are all regarding T4
t1-tmid are dead.

catholicism198 wrote:

trebla wrote:NO sugar coating it, it suck NA primetime. You run into the same over geared 6mans destroying destro small WB just casually playing. Every now then you will see a destroy 6 man but they are far and few who actually run optimal setups.
Same WL's I won't name so they do not get the satisfaction, killing 3+ ppl or 6mans who play casually and for some fun.
So yea I can attest to friends quitting cause of that.
Many destroy just sit in WC or do boring **** like craft before getting so bored they log out.

So on the forum the Majority of posters are Fan boy/girls who will argue the opposite but if you want to hear the from the casuals just ask in advice chat, where the pulse of the community resides, not in this forum where the hardcore and devs will say other wise.

Sad but true.
The premades are actually so thirsty they'll even chase solos across the map.

*these comment are all regarding T4
t1-tmid are dead.

The WB's do this just as much tbh. Guess you have to get whatever kills you can.

wargrimnir wrote: Play on the weekends during the day, those are usually the best times for mass RvR. Eventually you'll get tired of that, and leading small warbands through NA primetime will be an interesting refresher on how-to-not-zerg-blob.

There's nothing particularly unfriendly about the server for NA players. Ping times are excellent across the map and everything is in proper American English. I would wager NA players just aren't as interested in RvR. Maybe when we get some of these reward systems working more smoothly they'll dive back into it. But all things take time.

NA Player here - PST too. Weekends are really the only viable times to play. During the day, in the mornings/early afternoon there will be some good RVR. On weeknights - for PST players - just expect crickets and long SC Que times... BUT! If your lucky, youll catch an Order zerg (I am Destro main) late night and you can hop around stealing BOs for contribution and get a top contribution roll! So there is a chance!

As for being "unfriendly" for NA players. I'd probably disagree. I average 160+ ping. So right there, it rules out two classes for me to play (SM/BO). Also it makes playing a Melee class a PAIN because that 30 feet range becomes more like 20 feet, which does make a difference! For things like punting the correct direction (Ive learned you have to run FAR past the target to punt them back towards your group. Doing it where your appropriately lined up on your screen, only punts them further from your group, pissing people off in the process.

At "prime time" NA times, RVR is non-existent most nights. SC pops can be a PAIN as well, with long que times. Not only that, but unless you have a good "core" group of friends that log on each nights, your going to have a really rough time considering this game is HIGHLY focused on group play. Good luck rolling a MDPS class without a tank you can rely on for Guard - as one example.

Dont get me wrong. I enjoy ROR very much, but there are many nights (and early mornings too) where I just dont bother to log on because the time it takes to try and get competent players to do anything, might be half the time I have to play.

Which creates a "catch 22" where NA players dont log on, because players arent on, which leads to less players being on, so therefore NA players dont log on LOL.

Actually games like TESO - which has a similar-ish RVR focus (large scale battles) are VERY popular in NA. So its not the "type" of PVP or anything that deters people. I have a few opinions on the "NA Problem" but I have already posted about them in other areas and they have lead nowhere - so there is no point rehashing that here

Well, I play EST time generally, have been playing Order. Sounds like I would be more useful playing Destro from this and several other recent threads. Guess I should roll some and make the switch.

Krima wrote:NA time is very small scale.... and players got sick of fighting WLs.. many quit (destro side)

why is everything have to do with WLs

True statement. NA times sucks and so does the 6 man situation. Nothing can be done besides promoting the game where you can, to get more NA players back. Old NA players don't have a clue this server exists or maybe they already left. I also don't want more player back until things are better than they currently are. Bringing back players now will only push them away with all the changes over the last 5 months that have broken RvR to the point I don't play it much myself.

catholicism198 wrote:

trebla wrote:

Spoiler:

NO sugar coating it, it suck NA primetime. You run into the same over geared 6mans destroying destro small WB just casually playing. Every now then you will see a destroy 6 man but they are far and few who actually run optimal setups.
Same WL's I won't name so they do not get the satisfaction, killing 3+ ppl or 6mans who play casually and for some fun.
So yea I can attest to friends quitting cause of that.
Many destroy just sit in WC or do boring **** like craft before getting so bored they log out.

So on the forum the Majority of posters are Fan boy/girls who will argue the opposite but if you want to hear the from the casuals just ask in advice chat, where the pulse of the community resides, not in this forum where the hardcore and devs will say other wise.

Sad but true.
The premades are actually so thirsty they'll even chase solos across the map.

*these comment are all regarding T4
t1-tmid are dead.

I disagree we have started running T4 Destro 6man and kill plenty of order WB's and players...
I wont disagree T4 NA time has sucked the past few weeks but there are still some nice skirmishes.

Ok, so let me get this straight. NA prime isn't really good, sadly. 6 month ago it was quite ok.

Also what i see in forums is that order doesn't have enough healer/tanks and yet there are some overgeared warbands (obv with healers and tanks) that destroy everything ?

So for casual playing there aren't enough order's heals/tanks compared to destro ?

Unfortunately for me personally weekends' afternoons isn't an option, too much activity in RL. So i only have eastern time evenings. (I still remember first 6 months of warhammer live, huge warbands left and right on both sides on all tiers, eh...)

I guess one thing is also true for NA is ping issues and some NA players don't want to deal with it.

NA Primetime took a big hit when the Keep Lords were buffed. Not many destro wanna spend 10-15 mins beating on a lord. I personally dislike it as well and hope the devs will tone down the damage resist buff on the Lords. Maybe a scaling on the buff based on the number of stars the enemy keep currently is. Otherwise, this game was basically transformed from Doorhammer to Lordhammer. I play though because I have hope the Devs will make some fair adjustments to resolve the problems people are having with the current META.

im from Canada, and i play all the time