Return of Reckoning

Will there be a client patch too?

Sigh no event yet so hyped for it.

Mausini wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:06 am Will there be a client patch too?

Client was patched but only either fixes or prepping stuff for next patch.

anarchypark wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:39 am

ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:14 am
Swordmaster
Phoenix Wing has had its aoe snare and its 2h requirement removed.

AoE snare, why? cuz BO have it?
what would u give BO to mirror then?

and keep pushing build to khaine or hoeth.
are u even monitoring vaul 13 skill?

Yes, we're monitoring Vaul

Sulorie wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:38 am

Gangan wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:33 am

ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:14 am [Abilities]

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- When debolstered abilities normally acquired later should now be unusable.

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Does this mean you'll have your full skil setup as a Lvl40 in e.g. Sacellum/Sewers?

Actually the opposite. I find the change still strange, because I was never able to use higher lvl tactics and skills in city dungeons.

Yeah....totaly read that wrong XD my bad

Acidic wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:22 am Looks interesting. Good to see changes

The change to Phoenix wing looks a bit over the top, aoe spamable 250 drain with the tactic, no 2h requirement and no cool down bit extreme looking at it on paper

Does Destro have anything comparable ? All marauder aoe with moral drains have a significant cool down .

Seems like a very significant cooldown indeed.

Acidic wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:22 am Looks interesting. Good to see changes

The change to Phoenix wing looks a bit over the top, aoe spamable 250 drain with the tactic, no 2h requirement and no cool down bit extreme looking at it on paper

Does Destro have anything comparable ? All marauder aoe with moral drains have a significant cool down .

Dude, if u play SM u will understand 2sec 20% snare and need rotation to use it
almost useless, u still need the incision to snare ur target if u use PW the target must run away
Actually I would like chopa pull instead of it. If the target run just Pull him back he must die

^^^^^^ This
Also @ Acidic, don't post that something is over powered bc you don't like the way it looks on the forum, go test it.
On Topic: Hopefully next patch is the end of the unending rework of WL so Order can have 3 mdps classes again.

If i may talk about PW this change just made it redundant with WoH.... That skill have an identity crysis from a long time now....the black ork can aoe while in 2h 2/3 hits and so is viable in 2h for rvr especially now with a so good panic button on 13 pt....The sm only have aoe skill in good balance basically so 1/3 of the hits done....effective cut him out from 2h aoe build for rvr.

It came due phoenix wing or wrath of hoeth not being a perfect balance skill. It"s k remove the snare ..ib have snare and aoe punt as does BO...no need for sm to have an additionsl snare.
SM need instead PW or WoH to be a perfect balance skill and 1 of the two restricted to 2h to be able to be viable as BO for rvr while 2h. Currebtly no ordertank is viable as bg/bo for rvr in 2h.

All tanks are viable for rvr while s+b but tanks like 2h sm they are cutted out cuz they dont bring anything more thall their s+b counterpart.

Change 1 skill in this istance will make a whole 2h rvr build viable without nerf or buff other existinh builds, i think it would be worth the try.

Engineer
Fragmentation Grenade has been changed to Fulminate Charge because its physical damage has been changed to Corporeal.

Fragmentation Grenade is still named Fragmentation Grenade.

Or will that updated with a next client patch?