Return of Reckoning

teiloh wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:21 pm

Drekan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:15 am Wheres only available for destro is a 25% from zealot hahahabwabwawawa

DOK has +20% incoming on defensive target when they crit hit (Transferred Focus), stacks to +45%

FALSE
Both are tactics and both are +%incoming heal=> following stacking rules that 2 wouldnt stack.
anyways, its a trash tactic for a DPS DoK and useless for healer DoK

emiliorv wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:47 pm
FALSE
Both are tactics and both are +%incoming heal=> following stacking rules that 2 wouldnt stack.
anyways, its a trash tactic for a DPS DoK and useless for healer DoK

Focused Mending is also a +% incoming heal tactic

teiloh wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:37 am

emiliorv wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:47 pm
FALSE
Both are tactics and both are +%incoming heal=> following stacking rules that 2 wouldnt stack.
anyways, its a trash tactic for a DPS DoK and useless for healer DoK

Focused Mending is also a +% incoming heal tactic

a few auras are special, stay focused with mending or the resis auras of both tanks stack with certain other skills. But healing amplyfication stacking on order in general feels like no rules since the swordmaster tactic stacked also with everything last time i heard from a friend, who tested it.

so cool as healer to go to melee spec for crit to gain a buff you cant even use due to melee heal are drains..

teiloh wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:37 am

emiliorv wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:47 pm
FALSE
Both are tactics and both are +%incoming heal=> following stacking rules that 2 wouldnt stack.
anyways, its a trash tactic for a DPS DoK and useless for healer DoK

Focused Mending is also a +% incoming heal tactic

Focused mending is a tactic that adds a healing Buff to aura, auras are abilities so that incoming heal Buff is considered from ability. Thats the reason why stacks with tactics modifiers.

teiloh wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:21 pm

Drekan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:15 am Wheres only available for destro is a 25% from zealot hahahabwabwawawa

DOK has +20% incoming on defensive target when they crit hit (Transferred Focus), stacks to +45%

lulz.

Not all tactic/ability combos work that way unless you also think HoT/shield tactics for Zealot/RP also stack with armor pots, which would stack with Mountain Spirit/Eye of Sheerian.

Unless they were expressly changed with the review, they probably still do stack.

Tactics that add the same kind of benefit dont stack.

emiliorv wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:43 pm Tactics that add the same kind of benefit dont stack.

But does this general rule really exist? I tested a while ago the 3 healbuffs for order (RP, AM and kobs) and they all stacked.
Does BW shield stack with RP armor buff from hot? According to the "rule" they should.

Arbich wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:04 pm

emiliorv wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:43 pm Tactics that add the same kind of benefit dont stack.

But does this general rule really exist? I tested a while ago the 3 healbuffs for order (RP, AM and kobs) and they all stacked.
Does BW shield stack with RP armor buff from hot? According to the "rule" they should.

RP healbuff => tactic: +25% incoming heal on triggered by healcrit)
KOTBS healbuff => ability: +15% incoming heal under aura stay focused! (yes you need to slot a tactic, but the healing component is added to an ablity so it counts as an ability)

AM helbuff => (i assume desperation tactic) this is weird because adds 2 effects and must work in different way:
1º +40% heal when target under 25% health => TACTIC: really i cant say if this works like a incoming (target receive +40% more heal when under 25% hp) or like outgoing (you heal +40% more to targets under 25% hp). If works like outgoing modifiers will stack with the rp+kotbs, if works like incoming will stack only with kotbs.
2º +25% heal if target is under soul infusion => ABILITY: clearly incoming. this stack with RP but not with kotbs.

The +25% incoming tied to soul infusion should not stack with kotbs healbuff.