Return of Reckoning

Lorsten wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:34 am
For me the best way is 20-30 min only for queueing, without prep. time (no pops during this time), and after queue closing, system opens mirrors, according to it rules. No dodging, no race for queueing first, all happy (except order pugs like always, but who cares?). You can as well implement some attributes for opening mirrors this way, like mmr, avg. RR, item lvl.

This is an excellent suggestion. Essentially the same queue we have now - which is very good, when not abused.

city queue dodge is only a order issue, if you are a pug/solo on order you are throwed vs destro premades by your own realmmates => deal with it

well, its the tax for guarenteed city pops.

Discouraging organized wbs (even more) and promoting solo-gameplay is something this game have more than enough

Mordd wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:16 am and if it takes 15+ minutes to find the right classes you cant queue?

NO

Then you miss the city or solo que. Missing a city isn't a big deal. It happens to alot of players every single city.

Nekkma wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:40 am

Mordd wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:16 am and if it takes 15+ minutes to find the right classes you cant queue?

NO

Then you miss the city or solo que. Missing a city isn't a big deal. It happens to alot of players every single city.

Encouraging solo-play even more...why? why the hell in a mmo wbs need to be punished this way?

The only thing city queue need is remove completely the option to queue solo and make full group the minimun option to queue.

emiliorv wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:48 am

Nekkma wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:40 am

Mordd wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:16 am and if it takes 15+ minutes to find the right classes you cant queue?

NO

Then you miss the city or solo que. Missing a city isn't a big deal. It happens to alot of players every single city.

Encouraging solo-play even more...why? why the hell in a mmo wbs need to be punished this way?

The only thing city queue need is remove completely the option to queue solo and make full group the minimun option to queue.

Punish? it takes 10 min to kill last fort lord. 10 min prep. OP propose 10 min limit to que as 24 man. If one cannot form a wb in 30 min then deal with missing city. No punishment what so ever. There is zero reason to not fill a wb in that time.

Edit: I agree with some previous posters, and have argued for a similar solution in other threads, that propose a fixed quetime and only after that city instances pop. So I'm not arguing for better treatment of solo quers. Just that one should not whine about not beeing able to fill a wb when you have 30 min to do so.

Its obvious that certain order guilds don't really want to have fights and that's alright.
Let them get the solo pugs in the last instances it's not like it will matter if they're in sov or not lol

Nekkma wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:52 am

emiliorv wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:48 am

Nekkma wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:40 am

Then you miss the city or solo que. Missing a city isn't a big deal. It happens to alot of players every single city.

Encouraging solo-play even more...why? why the hell in a mmo wbs need to be punished this way?

The only thing city queue need is remove completely the option to queue solo and make full group the minimun option to queue.

Punish? it takes 10 min to kill last fort lord. 10 min prep. OP propose 10 min limit to que as 24 man. If one cannot form a wb in 30 min then deal with missing city. No punishment what so ever. There is zero reason to not fill a wb in that time.

In the moment you are limiting 1 type of gameplay (wb in this case) more than others you are punishing ppl to want to play in a wb setting.

now tell me, why in a mmo the higher level of organized gameplay (full wb) need to be punished to cater the lowest level of organized gameplay (solo)???

Really i cant believe that devs changed the matchmaking to cater the solo cryers...that patch only opened the door to this more crying threads claiming for more advantages to solo queuers.

well, ok => since this queue dodge thing is only a order issue => lets make this restriction ONLY TO ORDER WBS. its ok then?

Just write a simple line of code that will not allow full premade wb to be matched against pugs. You can hardy expect people to always find a premade wb... not until the devs decide to balance and fix classes so that they are not trashed upon *cough* AM * cough*

Spellbound wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:24 am

badoglio wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:00 am since there is a tons of 24 premades latelly dodging the queue : why not removing the possibility of 24 man to queue after 10 minutes of the start?! the one in queue remains tho

just to avoid 24 man dodging actual 24 man premades since destro need to istant queue to have a possibility and order can wait till 5 minutes left to queue their 24 man


just a suggestion

if u are worried of joining premade dont even bother building one

ezy

If you’re intentionally city logging on the heavily populated side for easy wins, then that’s how it works w the lower population getting pops w less than 5 min. We saw destro % go up by several % points when city opened. It’s obvious they’re either switching sides after making a 5 star or only play the game for city. Not much sympathy there for higher pop. Order sometimes had the same issue when overpop at times.

This

Jaffawer wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:06 am Just write a simple line of code that will not allow full premade wb to be matched against pugs.

WHY?