Return of Reckoning

Toggle wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:50 pm Over the past couple of weeks, I have been speaking with various shamans that I know run a DPS spec in game in an attempt to find our "BIS" for damage. I got many, many different answers to my questions. I attempted to put together two different gear sets based on the two lines of thinking that came up over and over during those discussions - a magic crit based gear set and a magic power based gear set. Everyone could tell me why they thought one particular set was better than the other, but nobody that I spoke with had "done the math". So, I gave it a shot. Any and all constructive feedback is welcome.

The Gear

The jewelry (genesis fragment and remnant of the scholar, bloodmoon waaagh beads, and warlord waaagh beads) and weapon (bloodlord waaaghstick) were the same for both builds.

Magic Crit Set - OffSov [5 pieces] (shoulders, back, chest, belt, and boots)/Warlord [3 pieces] (helm, gloves, and jewelry)

Stats [No buffs!] - 985 intelligence, 60 magic power, 37% crit

Magic Power Set - OffSov [4 pieces] (helm, shoulders, back, gloves)/Victorious [3 pieces] (chest, belt, boots)

Stats [No buffs!] - 992 intelligence, magic power 164, 27% crit

The Test

I used the Training Constructs in IC as my test dummies. Each test was performed with no buffs applied prior to the fight (i.e. no pots/liniments, and no pre-hotting for mechanic bonus). I tried to follow a standardized rotation for each fight (I'm human, so I know it wasn't perfect.). The rotation consisted of the following - apply 3 DoTs, brain bursta, waaagh, brain bursta x2, re-apply 2 DoTs, brain bursta until dead. I ran a total of 10 tests for each gear set, and then recorded all of the information given for each fight in a spread sheet (total time, DPS, and highest 3s burst). The results for each of the 3 sections was averaged.

Results - See attached spreadsheet.

Magic Crit Set (10 Test Avg.) - Time 26.69, DPS 620, 3s Burst 5099.72

Magic Power Set (10 Test Avg.) - Time 26.48, DPS 625, 3s Burst 4796.18

Discussion

As far as I can tell, there aren't any statistically significant differences between these two set ups when it comes to doing damage. It would appear that the Magic Crit Set gives you a slightly higher burst potential, and the Magic Power Set gives you an almost unmeasurable edge in DPS. I would like to do similar tests with the various weapon choices that we have access to in order to determine if any of them provide a measurable edge over the others.

Like I mentioned above, any and all constructive feedback is welcome.

https://imgur.com/a/p1dAYiD

noobwarrior wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:06 am Hello, I'm the shaman Gdamn and I have to say that your 3sec.burst is very low. But my personal 3sec burst is 11699 damage and I'm 100% sure that I'm holding the highest output on the dummy of all the other shamans..

nat3s wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:38 am Yup thought it was common knowledge, Warlord is the best set for dps sham, which is why most people use it in game.

I love my sham, but it's total cheese mode, ridiculously OP at present which is why I just can't face solo roaming with him anymore. Game feels infested with shamans/AM... Although I have switched to regen WH which is equally cheesey.

Preferred the variety of live tbh. Some balance adjustments are needed.

Toggle wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:50 pm

Spoiler:

Over the past couple of weeks, I have been speaking with various shamans that I know run a DPS spec in game in an attempt to find our "BIS" for damage. I got many, many different answers to my questions. I attempted to put together two different gear sets based on the two lines of thinking that came up over and over during those discussions - a magic crit based gear set and a magic power based gear set. Everyone could tell me why they thought one particular set was better than the other, but nobody that I spoke with had "done the math". So, I gave it a shot. Any and all constructive feedback is welcome.

The Gear

The jewelry (genesis fragment and remnant of the scholar, bloodmoon waaagh beads, and warlord waaagh beads) and weapon (bloodlord waaaghstick) were the same for both builds.

Magic Crit Set - OffSov [5 pieces] (shoulders, back, chest, belt, and boots)/Warlord [3 pieces] (helm, gloves, and jewelry)

Stats [No buffs!] - 985 intelligence, 60 magic power, 37% crit

Magic Power Set - OffSov [4 pieces] (helm, shoulders, back, gloves)/Victorious [3 pieces] (chest, belt, boots)

Stats [No buffs!] - 992 intelligence, magic power 164, 27% crit

The Test

I used the Training Constructs in IC as my test dummies. Each test was performed with no buffs applied prior to the fight (i.e. no pots/liniments, and no pre-hotting for mechanic bonus). I tried to follow a standardized rotation for each fight (I'm human, so I know it wasn't perfect.). The rotation consisted of the following - apply 3 DoTs, brain bursta, waaagh, brain bursta x2, re-apply 2 DoTs, brain bursta until dead. I ran a total of 10 tests for each gear set, and then recorded all of the information given for each fight in a spread sheet (total time, DPS, and highest 3s burst). The results for each of the 3 sections was averaged.

Results - See attached spreadsheet.

Magic Crit Set (10 Test Avg.) - Time 26.69, DPS 620, 3s Burst 5099.72

Magic Power Set (10 Test Avg.) - Time 26.48, DPS 625, 3s Burst 4796.18

Discussion

As far as I can tell, there aren't any statistically significant differences between these two set ups when it comes to doing damage. It would appear that the Magic Crit Set gives you a slightly higher burst potential, and the Magic Power Set gives you an almost unmeasurable edge in DPS. I would like to do similar tests with the various weapon choices that we have access to in order to determine if any of them provide a measurable edge over the others.

Like I mentioned above, any and all constructive feedback is welcome.

https://imgur.com/a/p1dAYiD

Toggle wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:49 pm If it’s “common knowledge” I find it odd that I see people wearing all sorts of combinations in game when I inspect. Would you mind contributing to the thread by testing out the build you’re talking about and formatting it like the first post so that we can make a comparison? I would greatly appreciate it!

BluIzLucky wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:30 pm It's probably 7p warlord + 2p Victorious (body+ring) + bloodlord staff, and would be buffed up (pot, mechanic, toughness+ele debuff, 7p proc and 15% dmg from NBDWAAAGH), on AM that gives about 10.5k 3s burst