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Re: WH and WE steath 30 seconds again
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:46 pm
by Detangler
Shogun4138 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:27 pm
Wh and We die a lot. Ironically they get killed and don't run to the forums.
I literally watch one AM kite and kill a six man, but they are not broken.
You literally have to spec your character for the type of game play you intend to use. Solo, 6 man, or warband. Do not expect to win when your set up for warband play and someone set up for solo play kills ya. Its all relative.
one AM can't kill a 6 man, lol. 1 half awake healer will counter the DPS. thats a PBKAC issue, not a class balance issue.
Back to topic, yes, please make it 30 sec duration again. 3 sec casting time, but reduce the cooldown. Stealth should be a "reposition" tool, not a "roam with impunity" tool. Its honestly getting as bad as DAoC was with their infinite stealth and zero counters.
Re: WH and WE steath 30 seconds again
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:53 pm
by Shogun4138
Fir group play a WE literally has one tactic that allows them to hit three targets if within range of main target and there is a damage reduction associated with that. The second one would be OYK and to get that you have to spec up one whole career path. So no, group play is severely gimped.
Of course like all players, if you're in discord, you can coordinate attacks. Again, that works for everyone.
Re: WH and WE steath 30 seconds again
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:02 pm
by Krima
Agree
Re: WH and WE steath 30 seconds again
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:03 pm
by inoeth
gtfo with all your fake accounts lol
Re: WH and WE steath 30 seconds again
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:08 pm
by Sulorie
Within 30s you can't do anything meaningful behind enemy lines.
Stealth should be more useful than to apply opener debuff, which would be the only use case when nerfed.
The point of stealth is to not be seen, if approaching. With short duration you are back to static and unfunny camping behind obstacles or your targets will see you beforehand, if you go stealth.
Re: WH and WE steath 30 seconds again
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:12 pm
by Shogun4138
Then due to the emphasis on zerging, the blob, WE and WH have been pushed to run on groups.
What I see here is an emphasis on individuals who feel they should always beat said classes and when they can't its only because the class was stealthed.
If your run around solo, you can get caught up and die by any class. I'd say, look at regen items. That's the realm problem here.. Imo
Re: WH and WE steath 30 seconds again
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:22 pm
by CountTalabecland
Shogun4138 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:27 pm
Wh and We die a lot. Ironically they get killed and don't run to the forums.
I literally watch one AM kite and kill a six man, but they are not broken.
You literally have to spec your character for the type of game play you intend to use. Solo, 6 man, or warband. Do not expect to win when your set up for warband play and someone set up for solo play kills ya. Its all relative.
Lol, please record this godly AM next time. What was this 6 man? I am sitting here trying to conceive what collection of destro classes doesn’t have a pull, pounce, ranged KD, ranged snare, aoe stagger that would allow them to catch a slow AM? I am not coming up with any.
How can you plausibly sit here with all the CC tools on destro and claim you cannot catch an AM who has nothing to escape with? No self-punt, no juggernaut, no speed boost, nothing.
Re: WH and WE steath 30 seconds again
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:27 pm
by Shogun4138
CountTalabecland wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:22 pm
Shogun4138 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:27 pm
Wh and We die a lot. Ironically they get killed and don't run to the forums.
I literally watch one AM kite and kill a six man, but they are not broken.
You literally have to spec your character for the type of game play you intend to use. Solo, 6 man, or warband. Do not expect to win when your set up for warband play and someone set up for solo play kills ya. Its all relative.
Lol, please record this godly AM next time. What was this 6 man? I am sitting here trying to conceive what collection of destro classes doesn’t have a pull, pounce, ranged KD, ranged snare, aoe stagger that would allow them to catch a slow AM? I am not coming up with any.
How can you plausibly sit here with all the CC tools on destro and claim you cannot catch an AM who has nothing to escape with? No self-punt, no juggernaut, no speed boost, nothing.
I've stayed stealth and literally have watched it.
Re: WH and WE steath 30 seconds again
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:28 pm
by inoeth
Shogun4138 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:12 pm
Then due to the emphasis on zerging, the blob, WE and WH have been pushed to run on groups.
What I see here is an emphasis on individuals who feel they should always beat said classes and when they can't its only because the class was stealthed.
If your run around solo, you can get caught up and die by any class. I'd say, look at regen items. That's the realm problem here.. Imo
nope they have been pushed to run groups bcause 99% of the players are 100% gimps and cant play their class
Re: WH and WE steath 30 seconds again
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:33 pm
by Shogun4138
inoeth wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:28 pm
Shogun4138 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:12 pm
Then due to the emphasis on zerging, the blob, WE and WH have been pushed to run on groups.
What I see here is an emphasis on individuals who feel they should always beat said classes and when they can't its only because the class was stealthed.
If your run around solo, you can get caught up and die by any class. I'd say, look at regen items. That's the realm problem here.. Imo
nope they have been pushed to run groups bcause 99% of the players are 100% gimps and cant play their class
Yeah, I guess you are they only elitist with the stats to make that call.
