Return of Reckoning

Same ppl who never mention SH or Shaman or Magus without putting OP in front - but never do the same for SW AM or Engi

Lareal wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:34 am

Everdin wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:19 am Where to buy this foilhats?

Predictable. Number 1 tactic of conspiracists: insinuate that the other side are spreading conspiracy theories.

Nope, it isn't. Making up facts instead is one of the measurements for conspiracy theories.

But I am able to learn, could you give any example for somebody who created a second account to promote an anti destro agenda?

Here we go again, another round of destro whining. So rich, coming from the side that has 2 immunity-ignoring AOE punts while the other one has 0

Tisaya wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:04 am Here we go again, another round of destro whining. So rich, coming from the side that has 2 immunity-ignoring AOE punts while the other one has 0

Was gonna list all the Order abilities that destro dont have but meh - and what has aoe punts got to do with the SW.

Panel wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:14 am

Tisaya wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:04 am Here we go again, another round of destro whining. So rich, coming from the side that has 2 immunity-ignoring AOE punts while the other one has 0

Was gonna list all the Order abilities that destro dont have but meh - and what has aoe punts got to do with the SW.

Yes, feel free to list all game breaking and decisive abilities that destro doesn't have.

Panel wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:14 am

Tisaya wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:04 am Here we go again, another round of destro whining. So rich, coming from the side that has 2 immunity-ignoring AOE punts while the other one has 0

Was gonna list all the Order abilities that destro dont have but meh - and what has aoe punts got to do with the SW.

din't want to forestall here, but whats about, detaunt & speedproc taktik, extra damage from pet, still accessible speed ability without the downside of switching stances, guard from pet, range tactic, selfheal, aoe punt

The SW is fine. The Person who are leading has more time to play as the others. You can do it with any other dps class on both sides

Everdin wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:22 am

Panel wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:14 am

Tisaya wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:04 am Here we go again, another round of destro whining. So rich, coming from the side that has 2 immunity-ignoring AOE punts while the other one has 0

Was gonna list all the Order abilities that destro dont have but meh - and what has aoe punts got to do with the SW.

din't want to forestall here, but whats about, detaunt & speedproc taktik, extra damage from pet, still accessible speed ability without the downside of switching stances, guard from pet, range tactic, selfheal, aoe punt

And none of these were massive problems before damage values and additonal modifiers were being tweaked etc.

Same for quite a bit of the SW kit.

Nerfs to certain speedprocs found on tanks play a surprisingly large role in the overall dynamics too here.

Things simply changed without taking the overall kits or game into account and without clear endgame figures in mind, and with WAY too heavy of a hand. It's quite simple, if you don't consider A when changing B, A+(sometimes * in this case with pet and VoN/crit damage for example) B will likely turn out way greater than what you expected or is healthy. And then when you go to tune things back, people inevitably cry nerf, even though the baseline is now multiple times over what it used to be as a result of the mistakes.

Also this isn't about faction A vs faction B. Plenty of stuff can be significantly damaging to overall health of game despite both sides having access to similar things. The comparison between classes on the same faction matter aswell for example, hell, even how different specs on the same class hold up against eachother.

Wasn’t this thread about op Magus?

Yesterday played my dps dok in evening. Went few scenarios. The quality of shitshow destro pug performed there is unbelievable. Including: que solo in **** gear versus order prems in sov, not using pots, ataking snb tanks, feed like no tommorow without surrender. Basically everyone on order got ton of kills just shooting this inting bots. And now same people sit here and whine about SW being OP, ranged meta bullshit, and that they cant play the game game cos they cant dominate with one button, and now class that was spamed by order for years in NERFED spec become sudently op. Whats game really need is MMR in sc, so normal people can play ws normal people, and spoiled MTV girls sit in their own hell que yelling and acusing each other in being broken and op. If people just switch off brain and rush toward rdps without healers, respaun, do same 10 times, and then go here to "analysis" of killboard maybe they shouldnt play pvp games.