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Re: Suggestion of a balance change for upcoming DPS changes
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 2:47 pm
by Panzer80
Stop crying for mirror changes. I'm tired of this. Play both factions. This kind of complaining doesn't help the server. Mara does not have a pounce. There's no reason why it's pull should be equal to the WL's for that reason. I hate getting pulled as much as the next person, but if you're not going to be objective, just stop. Don't be last. We don't need more pulls in the game with slayer having another. It doesn't even really fit a slayer to have one. Even worse, these aren't the kind of complaints to even have in regard to the dps patch. Pulls are the least of dps's problems now after the healer patch.
Re: Suggestion of a balance change for upcoming DPS changes
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:09 pm
by KonradCurze
I play both factions. Mainly order though, And I agree that at least slayer should get the ''bad'' aoe pull that choppa has.
And pets overall should recieve more HP and dmg reduction vs AoE and give WL non pet dependant pull . It should be flat same thing in this department since overall it gives destro free kills, Magus and engi pull can remain the same its balanced.
Re: Suggestion of a balance change for upcoming DPS changes
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:16 pm
by pellestropp
Panzer80 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 29, 2025 2:47 pm
Stop crying for mirror changes. I'm tired of this. Play both factions. This kind of complaining doesn't help the server. Mara does not have a pounce. There's no reason why it's pull should be equal to the WL's for that reason. I hate getting pulled as much as the next person, but if you're not going to be objective, just stop. Don't be last. We don't need more pulls in the game with slayer having another. It doesn't even really fit a slayer to have one. Even worse, these aren't the kind of complaints to even have in regard to the dps patch. Pulls are the least of dps's problems now after the healer patch.
You need to actually read the post.
First of its a suggestion for balance. If youre tired of reading stuff you do not agree with dont be on a forum reading. (if you even are reading?)
This post is about pulls, in funnel situations.
If you had actually read, you would have seen that i offered the suggestion of either removal of pulls alltogether, or for it to be balanced.
Even offered a suggestion on a solution of how it could have been sorted (for lion etc)
Re: Suggestion of a balance change for upcoming DPS changes
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 2:26 am
by Bavradai
Short and simple:
PBAoE MDPS spins are currently one sided.
Either they need to get balanced or removed completely.
Say White Lion spin, they can spin in 360. Their counterpart Marauder, is only 180 degrees. Other games have stuff like parity between similar abilities but not on here, so that could be a possible fix for this. So not only Order can spin in 360 degrees?
WL has a jump, why do not Mara have one? You walk close to any type of warband, white lion/s jumps and 360 spins, no equal damage counterpart on destro.
Re: Suggestion of a balance change for upcoming DPS changes
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 1:30 pm
by Rapzel
I guess we are giving mara and BO pounce as well then? As well as buff mara to have the same burst as WL.
Re: Suggestion of a balance change for upcoming DPS changes
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 1:40 pm
by pellestropp
Bavradai wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 2:26 am
Short and simple:
PBAoE MDPS spins are currently one sided.
Either they need to get balanced or removed completely.
Say White Lion spin, they can spin in 360. Their counterpart Marauder, is only 180 degrees. Other games have stuff like parity between similar abilities but not on here, so that could be a possible fix for this. So not only Order can spin in 360 degrees?
WL has a jump, why do not Mara have one? You walk close to any type of warband, white lion/s jumps and 360 spins, no equal damage counterpart on destro.
Ey no hijacking! make your own suggestion post!
Re: Suggestion of a balance change for upcoming DPS changes
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 6:27 pm
by machopi1
game's entirely based on ranged aoe bomber blobs, anything else is irrelevant in the meta
'oh man, my cat died before i could pull, if only i had 15 BWs behind me blowing up 80% of a WB in 2 gcds...oh wait a minute, yes i do have that, neat!'
if you don't like your WL pull go play a mara lol, people have been complaining about perfect 1:1 mirrors *countless* times before and it has never lead to anything
classes are different, that's the game and that's life, sorry brother
Re: Suggestion of a balance change for upcoming DPS changes
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 10:33 am
by normanis
SZ244663 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 28, 2025 3:39 pm
pellestropp wrote: ↑Fri Mar 28, 2025 2:54 pm
As title states, a suggestion for the upcoming DPS changes.
Short and simple:
Grips are currently one sided.
Either they need to get balanced or removed completely.
Say Marauder pull, they can pull in forts. Their counterpart Lion, their pet die before it can even enter any type of funnel. Other games have stuff like reduced aoe dmg taken whatnot for pets but not on here, so that could be a possible fix for this. So not only Des can pull in forts.
Choppa has a pull, why do not Slayer have one? You walk close to any type of stairs, choppa pulls you, no counterpart on order.
Grips are not one sided. The engineer has a really nice aoe pull that works great and has decent range too. White lion is decently tanky and more than you give it credit for, it's only in forts that the lion has issues with survivability but even then it actually can do some work if done *Properly* -- double check your use of the skill.
so do magus has nice pull called rift
Re: Suggestion of a balance change for upcoming DPS changes
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 10:38 am
by normanis
Panzer80 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 29, 2025 2:47 pm
Stop crying for mirror changes. I'm tired of this. Play both factions. This kind of complaining doesn't help the server. Mara does not have a pounce. There's no reason why it's pull should be equal to the WL's for that reason. I hate getting pulled as much as the next person, but if you're not going to be objective, just stop. Don't be last. We don't need more pulls in the game with slayer having another. It doesn't even really fit a slayer to have one. Even worse, these aren't the kind of complaints to even have in regard to the dps patch. Pulls are the least of dps's problems now after the healer patch.
cough cough byt msquig has pounce and witch has pounce, +shadowstep from asw cant see here problem slayer get aoe knock down or morale drain tactic (or both togather).
Re: Suggestion of a balance change for upcoming DPS changes
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 10:43 am
by normanis
Bavradai wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 2:26 am
Short and simple:
PBAoE MDPS spins are currently one sided.
Either they need to get balanced or removed completely.
Say White Lion spin, they can spin in 360. Their counterpart Marauder, is only 180 degrees. Other games have stuff like parity between similar abilities but not on here, so that could be a possible fix for this. So not only Order can spin in 360 degrees?
WL has a jump, why do not Mara have one? You walk close to any type of warband, white lion/s jumps and 360 spins, no equal damage counterpart on destro.
ability tooltip says ( wrecking ball) - spinning in a circle
from what ages circle is 180 not 360???