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Re: What if you were benefited from not being Xrealm?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:02 am
by Bavradai
The fact that Realm dedication is not rewarded is a huge detriment to this game. Having pride and fighting for your faction is part of the inherent social core of these types of MMO's and comfortable guilds with a singular aim (IE not flip-flopping from side to side to farm AAO and forcing you to reroll new characters) and with likeable people will keep people coming back. Belonging to part of your team and forming bonds with people you fight alongside for the same purpose is a major boon to this game especially and one that should be focused on by the dev team imo. Real gits love consistency.
There should be BIG rewards for staying on the same faction over both a short and extended period of time. I say this as a Destro only, we fight and die for the same cause and I could never imagine going turncoat and farming my former bros... I'd also run into the wrong warcamps as a result.

Re: What if you were benefited from not being Xrealm?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:06 am
by shoelessHN
Bavradai wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:02 am The fact that Realm dedication is not rewarded is a huge detriment to this game. Having pride and fighting for your faction is part of the inherent social core of these types of MMO's and comfortable guilds with a singular aim (IE not flip-flopping from side to side to farm AAO and forcing you to reroll new characters) and with likeable people will keep people coming back. Belonging to part of your team and forming bonds with people you fight alongside for the same purpose is a major boon to this game especially and one that should be focused on by the dev team imo. Real gits love consistency.
There should be BIG rewards for staying on the same faction over both a short and extended period of time. I say this as a Destro only, we fight and die for the same cause and I could never imagine going turncoat and farming my former bros... I'd also run into the wrong warcamps as a result.

You're missing half the game.

Re: What if you were benefited from not being Xrealm?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:04 am
by Scragmuncher
It's a really good idea, but unfortunately as people have pointed out, it would lead to more faction stacking, which is already and issue.
Would have loved this about 2 years ago though XD

Re: What if you were benefited from not being Xrealm?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:28 am
by nocturnalguest
Cant grasp why you lads mention it as a motivating factor for stacking?
How i see this working is being a personal buff (each char that has been ideally flagged and in orvr after 1 hour will get it on itself), not like zonewide aka AAO. Like i mentioned if lockout is removed, so you can xrealm all you want so its a great feature to reward joining the underdog to farm both AAO bonus and x2 crests after 1 hour. Yes, would need another hour if you got a buff on e.g. order and swapped destro i assume that average playtime session is somewhere around 3-4 hours so i dont think its a big issue.
How i see the situation - each serious guild picks a side according to AAO (issue is that pugs are irrelevant, so it may turn out if huge pvdoor has been happening with pugs stick into 1 side and big fish joins the lakes so pugs only choice is to either fill organised wb spots or dissappear), they will now play it for better or worse (and its the current situation as-is, nothing changes) and stick into it so this feature will actually make those who were previously "winning" (=PvDooring) and accumulated a bonus think twice if they continue fighting (=being farmed) or loose a bonus and swap sides.
So as a result imo:
- pugs will suffer from this feature
- realm priders may benefit
- organised will definitely benefit
What i cant see how it may drastically affect stacking? Big d*k boiz will pick underdog anyways, pugs&lazy daddies can pick whatever as it doesnt matter much but if they stick into one side they will get easier time to grind.

It to a greater extent would help out for crests bottleneck issue tho, ease the farm/grind. So why not

Re: What if you were benefited from not being Xrealm?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:28 am
by bw10
another incentive to make another account for every alt lol

Re: What if you were benefited from not being Xrealm?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 9:46 am
by Bavradai
shoelessHN wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:06 am
Bavradai wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:02 am The fact that Realm dedication is not rewarded is a huge detriment to this game. Having pride and fighting for your faction is part of the inherent social core of these types of MMO's and comfortable guilds with a singular aim (IE not flip-flopping from side to side to farm AAO and forcing you to reroll new characters) and with likeable people will keep people coming back. Belonging to part of your team and forming bonds with people you fight alongside for the same purpose is a major boon to this game especially and one that should be focused on by the dev team imo. Real gits love consistency.
There should be BIG rewards for staying on the same faction over both a short and extended period of time. I say this as a Destro only, we fight and die for the same cause and I could never imagine going turncoat and farming my former bros... I'd also run into the wrong warcamps as a result.

You're missing half the game.
Not really, I've played around with the other factions classes to get an idea of them and what I'm up against but the majority of my time is spent Destro. The only thing I really need to get stuck into is the Order storylines in PvE.
I just won't ever fight my own faction in any organised capacity.

Re: What if you were benefited from not being Xrealm?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:22 am
by Bavradai
Everyone in this thread assuming you'd get these 'mono realm' bonuses after a few hours.
It should take days and weeks to accumulate same realm bonus.

Re: What if you were benefited from not being Xrealm?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:47 pm
by shoelessHN
Bavradai wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:22 am Everyone in this thread assuming you'd get these 'mono realm' bonuses after a few hours.
It should take days and weeks to accumulate same realm bonus.
You know people would just have multiple accounts, one for each realm. Right?

Re: What if you were benefited from not being Xrealm?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:49 pm
by Culexus
Despite the good intentions of this idea, the reality is that players will exploit any system to maximize their rewards with the minimum effort required. In this case, they'd stack on the side with the biggest zerg and push zones, as not only do they get rewards for flipping zones, but now they get an extra reward for staying on the side that's zerging.

As with most of the other problems raised for this game, xrealming to the winning side is a player behavior problem. Attempts have been made in the past to resolve this between guild leaders, but egos got in the way and the whole thing fell apart.

Re: What if you were benefited from not being Xrealm?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:24 pm
by Aethilmar
BTW there are multiple issues tangled up in this proposal, among them are:
1) Guilds and their groupies flipping in the middle of a zone to suddenly roll over their former teammates.
2) Guilds and their groupies flipping in the middle of a zone to block progress of their forme teammates and creating a "stale" zone.
3) Faction loyalists and rewarding perseverance there when they are the "victim" of points #1 and #2.

I don't really want to dive into #1 or #2 because that has been the subject of multiple threads and lots of arguments. However #3 can be addressed in a somewhat meaningful way without handing out power and that would be through cosmetics and/or titles.

Although its probably already taken, you could have something like the title of "The Loyalist" for X amount of play time without swapping factions (or even just playing mostly on that side). And there could be time-limited cosmetics you acquire for extra loyalty to to a specific faction.

There are, as already mentioned, ways to cheat the system but it would at least let folks who enjoy loyalist gameplay to fly their flag so to speak.