Return of Reckoning

Krima wrote: Sun Dec 21, 2025 10:20 pm It seems that WEs are still spamming AW with Witchbrew or the new SS, so there is nothing particularly new there. The approach is extremely basic: cap Strength and invest into crit.

The Carnage tree looks very odd and feels subpar in comparison. I cannot think of any viable build that supports investing into Weapon Skill, as the base damage of Carnage skills is very low.

Give witch elfs the 50% armor pen tactic and range on RA back. They nerfed the hell out of the most fun we spec........loved the RA spec with wepskill stacking before the many nerfs.

geezereur wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 3:58 am

Krima wrote: Sun Dec 21, 2025 10:20 pm It seems that WEs are still spamming AW with Witchbrew or the new SS, so there is nothing particularly new there. The approach is extremely basic: cap Strength and invest into crit.

The Carnage tree looks very odd and feels subpar in comparison. I cannot think of any viable build that supports investing into Weapon Skill, as the base damage of Carnage skills is very low.

Give witch elfs the 50% armor pen tactic and range on RA back. They nerfed the hell out of the most fun we spec........loved the RA spec with wepskill stacking before the many nerfs.

Agreed.

Just play lifereg and let your build kill everything without geting below 50%, like every other WE clown here...
Cant take this class serious anymore, its just a broken joke, and i dont get how this is fun to play. Not even worth to fight it, when you are in 1vs1 situation its just auto win, so go for it and enjoy the brokenness, until it get fixed in.... how long took it for WL to get fixed? 3 years? 5? So a lot of "fun" is waiting for you...

2-3x Fleshrender
1x grimshimmer corset
5x def sov set
7x armor tali

dont forget the red nose to make the costume perfect! and of course hide yourself, that other players cant inspect your build of shame and know your quality as a player! youre welcome

geezereur wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 3:58 am

Krima wrote: Sun Dec 21, 2025 10:20 pm It seems that WEs are still spamming AW with Witchbrew or the new SS, so there is nothing particularly new there. The approach is extremely basic: cap Strength and invest into crit.

The Carnage tree looks very odd and feels subpar in comparison. I cannot think of any viable build that supports investing into Weapon Skill, as the base damage of Carnage skills is very low.

Give witch elfs the 50% armor pen tactic and range on RA back. They nerfed the hell out of the most fun we spec........loved the RA spec with wepskill stacking before the many nerfs.

And I want to date Margot Robbie

I have no issues as a WE. I can still kill most of targets before they get up from kd. SS critting 2k each.

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Shogun4138 wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 4:23 am

geezereur wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 3:58 am

Krima wrote: Sun Dec 21, 2025 10:20 pm It seems that WEs are still spamming AW with Witchbrew or the new SS, so there is nothing particularly new there. The approach is extremely basic: cap Strength and invest into crit.

The Carnage tree looks very odd and feels subpar in comparison. I cannot think of any viable build that supports investing into Weapon Skill, as the base damage of Carnage skills is very low.

Give witch elfs the 50% armor pen tactic and range on RA back. They nerfed the hell out of the most fun we spec........loved the RA spec with wepskill stacking before the many nerfs.

Agreed.

Agreed.


The problem is that Bleeding Edge was nerfed at the same time as RA base damage, Slice, and OYK. That was too much.
This is not just a “tone down.” 25% armor penetration is too low. A safer number would be 35–40%, which would still allow AW spam with the new SS and give better damage.

Like many other WEs agree, what kept me playing all these years was the return of CARNAGE. It gave a different build that, even if not the strongest, was playable. Not the strongest build, but the most fun one.

Spamming AW with a new armor-pen skill (puncture with 100% armor pen) is just not fun.

Old Carnage required a lot of setup to work: heavy investment in weapon skill, time to build 5 Blood Lust, low crit chance, and then release a channeled RA or look for a OYK. The gameplay was completely different from the no-brain AW + Witchbrew/SS style.

These changes of questionable intelligence have shifted Witch into Agonizing Wound into Sacrificial Stab spam. The devs either nerfed or made any other finisher useless for St bursting. Ruthless assault got gutted the hardest with both it's range and damage lowered, puncture saw its damage and ranged lowered and got overshadowed by Sacrificial Stab, witchbrew is for Regen builds, Heartrender toxin got turned into an ability rarely worth using and On your knees had its damage reduced. In turn Witch got turned into an aoe class with some utility and damage, and a fun play style if the numbers and your Warband leader allows it (they do prefer their marauders and choppas tho). The thing I don't get is why they didn't focus on creating some variety of st builds both for Witch elf and for Witch hunter, as both classes only have 1 viable build any more. The qol changes they introduced were good and welcomed at least.