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Re: most survivable tank

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:05 pm
by Morf
BG by far

Re: most survivable tank

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:12 pm
by Jaycub
BG/IB if you want to be full deftard and useless.

Knight if you want to be a tank and have utility AND deal damage.

with this build http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=kot ... 8:;0:0:0:0:

You can swap out runefang for super punt tactic, or enchant shatter one, but you lose damage.

You itemize/build around having about ~500 str ~800 wounds and pump the rest into block/parry/toughness. When runefang pops and you have the luxury of being able to use M2 you will have capped str, capped wounds, and probably capped toughness. So you are dealing "respectable" damage while being tanky enough that you should never die before anyone else.

You are also a huge credit to team just standing around because of those 3 tactics you grabbed and your auras. As far as surviviability is concerned you are a knight... so you are inherently tanky by virtue of core skills and block etc... no need to grab things like vigilance.

Re: most survivable tank

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:36 pm
by yhani
not sure but felt safe playing ib @live

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=ib; ... 756:3759:0:

cant remember if "seen it all before" stack with tb

renown points: tb, defender, deft (its possible to lower chance to get hit with initiative you get from items).

Re: most survivable tank

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:15 pm
by Tesq
renow ability stacked with everything me and djolle asked on forum and get response directly from keaven.

also same for sovereign bonus.

They are not additive anyway. For exemple a chosen with sov bonus+ oppression+ HC

would have 100% -15%= 85%
85% : 100 x 15= 12, 75%

so 85-12,75= 72%

then adding the sov bonus

72:100 x 6 =4,33

so 72-4,33 = 67% of damage taken and not 64% (15+15+6)

Re: most survivable tank

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:38 pm
by wos
lol tesq you like your numbers

Re: most survivable tank

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:44 pm
by Penril
Tesq wrote:renow ability stacked with everything me and djolle asked on forum and get response directly from keaven.

also same for sovereign bonus.

They are not additive anyway. For exemple a chosen with sov bonus+ oppression+ HC

would have 100% -15%= 85%
85% : 100 x 15= 12, 75%

so 85-12,75= 72%

then adding the sov bonus

72:100 x 6 =4,33

so 72-4,33 = 67% of damage taken and not 64% (15+15+6)
Can Chosen heal themselves like BG's?

k ty bb.

Re: most survivable tank

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:46 pm
by Azuzu
If it makes you feel any better, I've seen both BGs and Chosen tank hundreds of people on live. :lol:

Tho, I do remember BGs being the most tanky.


(Also, Chosen can kind of heal themselves, they have the aura that every-time they defend they are healed. Just nit picking lol )

Re: most survivable tank

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:50 pm
by Antalor
Crazyboss wrote:hmm... kotbz?
Hmm.. Let me guess.. It's longer name : Knight of The Blazing Zun ? Great I didn't even noticed it =) Now I will remember..

Re: most survivable tank

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:50 pm
by Penril
Azuzu wrote:If it makes you feel any better, I've seen both BGs and Chosen tank hundreds of people on live. :lol:

Tho, I do remember BGs being the most tanky.


(Also, Chosen can kind of heal themselves, they have the aura that every-time they defend they are healed. Just nit picking lol )
That's why i asked if they could heal themselves like BG's. I know they can get some healing, but not as much as Bolstering Anger.

Re: most survivable tank

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:53 pm
by Luuca
Azuzu wrote:If it makes you feel any better, I've seen both BGs and Chosen tank hundreds of people on live. :lol:

Tho, I do remember BGs being the most tanky.


(Also, Chosen can kind of heal themselves, they have the aura that every-time they defend they are healed. Just nit picking lol )
24 health per second, for 3 ticks, not stacking. You can keep it rolling with Renown Block added in, but it doesn't "double proc" or stack on itself. It helps, but it only delays the inevitable against a large group. It's great for AoE farming solo against Mobs tho.