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Re: Server Patch notes 01/12/2018

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:15 pm
by Snoxx
@doenny:
Just like Rydiak two pages earlier, I'm confused and don't really understand what you are asking for. Sorry.

Re: Server Patch notes 01/12/2018

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:44 pm
by doenny
LoL

I hope there is at least one person who understand my point:)

Ok for last time I will try to describe.

Divine strike - now 5 feet single target attack
Divine strike alternative - attacks all enemies 20 feet in front of you...

I hope now its clear.

BR D.

Re: Server Patch notes 01/12/2018

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:12 pm
by carmine3161
ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:03 pm Hotfix 04.12.2018
Spoiler:
[Items]
- Changes to DoK/WP 4pc Vanquisher proc "imperative Spirit" from 30 career resources over 3 seconds to 15 over 3 seconds.
Added a change that was missing from the patch notes, sorry for any inconveniences.

Re: Server Patch notes 01/12/2018

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:31 pm
by Aisha
carmine3161 wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:12 pm
ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:03 pm Hotfix 04.12.2018
Spoiler:
[Items]
- Changes to DoK/WP 4pc Vanquisher proc "imperative Spirit" from 30 career resources over 3 seconds to 15 over 3 seconds.
Added a change that was missing from the patch notes, sorry for any inconveniences.
Onslaught Set is going to keep 45 career resources over 3s proc?

Re: Server Patch notes 01/12/2018

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:15 pm
by carmine3161
Aisha wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:31 pm
carmine3161 wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:12 pm
ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:03 pm Hotfix 04.12.2018
Spoiler:
[Items]
- Changes to DoK/WP 4pc Vanquisher proc "imperative Spirit" from 30 career resources over 3 seconds to 15 over 3 seconds.
Added a change that was missing from the patch notes, sorry for any inconveniences.
Onslaught Set is going to keep 45 career resources over 3s proc?
For now yeah, i think the trade off is Vanquisher has better stats but the combination of both would be too strong.

Re: Server Patch notes 01/12/2018

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:32 pm
by Ayun
carmine3161 wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:15 pm
Aisha wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:31 pm
carmine3161 wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:12 pm
Added a change that was missing from the patch notes, sorry for any inconveniences.
Onslaught Set is going to keep 45 career resources over 3s proc?
For now yeah, i think the trade off is Vanquisher has better stats but the combination of both would be too strong.

Re: Server Patch notes 01/12/2018

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:35 pm
by Ayun
carmine3161 wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:15 pm
Aisha wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:31 pm
carmine3161 wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:12 pm
Added a change that was missing from the patch notes, sorry for any inconveniences.
Onslaught Set is going to keep 45 career resources over 3s proc?
For now yeah, i think the trade off is Vanquisher has better stats but the combination of both would be too strong.
I seriously hope you rethink this change. 15 ressources over 3 seconds is not really noticeable and with the 6 piece bonus being really really bad for WPs the set is now pretty terrible. 15 ressources is half of a basic HoT every now and then.

My suggestion is to switch the current 6 piece bonus with the current 4 piece bonus and make it 30 ressources again.

Re: Server Patch notes 01/12/2018

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:17 pm
by Nameless
giving free resourses via gear is imo pretty bad move and that ruin class balance, esp when we talk about carrier resourse \something that is unique only for dok/wp\.

Learn from live and remove ap alike procs and dmg % increasers that ruin the balance and make so many skills and tactics redutant.

For example AM as pure healer only advantage was superior ap managment, now every healers got milions ap procs from gear and that render their unique healer trade mark. Not to mention that once you introduce that ap proc meta /esp for healers/ you need to put that proc at ALL new gear sets

Re: Server Patch notes 01/12/2018

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:20 pm
by Soulview
carmine3161 wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:12 pm
ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:03 pm Hotfix 04.12.2018
Spoiler:
[Items]
- Changes to DoK/WP 4pc Vanquisher proc "imperative Spirit" from 30 career resources over 3 seconds to 15 over 3 seconds.
Added a change that was missing from the patch notes, sorry for any inconveniences.
Hello,

i also hope that you overthink the change. As already somebody wrote the vanq. set is now very bad when you compare it with the advantage from other classes through this set. 6 pieces bonus was already not good for fast healing dok & wp, other classes with long cast time profit from it much more. Now you also have much less ressources from the proc then the other classes. With the fact in mind that the dok / wp has worst cost / profit stats from all healer classes (how many ressources you need to invest to get a heal point in grp heal) then it makes not much sence for me.

If you think that fury proc isnt good for wp / dok then remove it from all sets and give him something where he is weak. For example the old 90 / 100 set procs with +crit chance and +crit heal. I didnt thought that complet through it is just a suggestion.

But how it is at the moment it is something that you should look at in my opinion.

best regards

Re: Server Patch notes 01/12/2018

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:03 pm
by wargrimnir
Ayun wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:35 pm
carmine3161 wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:15 pm
Aisha wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:31 pm

Onslaught Set is going to keep 45 career resources over 3s proc?
For now yeah, i think the trade off is Vanquisher has better stats but the combination of both would be too strong.
I seriously hope you rethink this change. 15 ressources over 3 seconds is not really noticeable and with the 6 piece bonus being really really bad for WPs the set is now pretty terrible. 15 ressources is half of a basic HoT every now and then.

My suggestion is to switch the current 6 piece bonus with the current 4 piece bonus and make it 30 ressources again.
15 / 3s = 5 SE/RF per second. Blue offhand generation grants 6 RF/SE. It's not a small amount, and Onslaught is on the table for similar adjustment. Values aren't final, but the initial bonus was very high.