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Re: motivation killer coppa pull and dps shamie ... ? overtuned?

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:59 pm
by Cabum
I would really like to see choppas with ramp + ID instead of gtdc and the useless ap strike spell (rampage mirror lol). I play both choppa and slayer, and I know most people that cry about the pull are SW, BW and AM. Lets make the solo pepega rdps happy and give tanks and melee a taste of what slayer powerhouse is.

Re: motivation killer coppa pull and dps shamie ... ? overtuned?

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:17 pm
by CyunUnderis
Ninjagon wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:15 pm If you cannot accept the fact that the multiple random pulls can disrupt any serious RvR engagement, there is no point to continue in this conversation.

Or maybe you are afraid that one day someonne will use a brain and do something with this broken skill.
If you cannot accept the fact that any good WB should channeling/moral drops when they have immunities to avoid random "pulls" or that any good WB can interrupt AoE channeling, there is no point to continue in this conversation.

Re: motivation killer coppa pull and dps shamie ... ? overtuned?

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:39 pm
by Farrul
Cabum wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:59 pm I would really like to see choppas with ramp + ID instead of gtdc and the useless ap strike spell (rampage mirror lol). I play both choppa and slayer, and I know most people that cry about the pull are SW, BW and AM. Lets make the solo pepega rdps happy and give tanks and melee a taste of what slayer powerhouse is.
The main issue is that Choppa's is an overplayed and spammed class ( there is at least 2-3 Choppas for every Slayer in lakes ) hence why GTDC is such an annoying ability to deal with (add the bugged/broken elements and you got an abomination ).

Giving Choppa's ramp+ID is no solution and would create new balance problems (although ID to replace GTDC can be discussed, but Order tanks need a balance pass alongside with it). Order tanks are not as attractive as their Destro counterparts and are fewer in numbers, you do this and the incentive to play Order tanks and mdps( no guard) would be gone, except for solo roaming WHs.

Re: motivation killer coppa pull and dps shamie ... ? overtuned?

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:48 pm
by Sulorie
Farrul wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:39 pm
Cabum wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:59 pm I would really like to see choppas with ramp + ID instead of gtdc and the useless ap strike spell (rampage mirror lol). I play both choppa and slayer, and I know most people that cry about the pull are SW, BW and AM. Lets make the solo pepega rdps happy and give tanks and melee a taste of what slayer powerhouse is.
The main issue is that Choppa's is an overplayed and spammed class ( there is at least 2-3 Choppas for every Slayer in lakes ) hence why GTDC is such an annoying ability to deal with (add the bugged/broken elements and you got an abomination ).

Giving Choppa's ramp+ID is no solution and would create new balance problems (although ID to replace GTDC can be discussed, but Order tanks need a balance pass alongside with it). Order tanks are not as attractive as their Destro counterparts and are fewer in numbers, you do this and the incentive to play Order tanks and mdps( no guard) would be gone, except for solo roaming WHs.
How do you want to change balance of order tanks, when they are already strong enough? Make them to strong to push more players towards them?

Re: motivation killer coppa pull and dps shamie ... ? overtuned?

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:21 pm
by Garamore
Just for one week give slayer GTDC and give choppa ID and rampage and do a poll about what each side wants. !00% sure no one would pick GTDC.

Re: motivation killer coppa pull and dps shamie ... ? overtuned?

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:00 pm
by Acidic
Garamore wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:21 pm Just for one week give slayer GTDC and give choppa ID and rampage and do a poll about what each side wants. !00% sure no one would pick GTDC.
How could you imagine someone choosing rampage over a small ap buff , madnes,