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So whats your point? If someone hit 40/40 he should just afk in a tavern BO for a few week to get their BiS gear? Doesnt sounds like do more get more to me?MindControl wrote: and u only got that right because u are level 40 and i got cow pie
And you tink that lvl 16 ppl with 8 skills on skill bar, 50% mount, no major skills (KDs,silence, heal debuff...), with 1 or 2 tactic (and not even good ones) are fighting ppl with full conq all skills all tactic w/o possibility of geting that same gear ppl that are pwning them are using is appropriate ?Hargrim wrote:Because we think it's not appropriate.MindControl wrote:Can u please clarify why the low levels cannot get conq and genesis gear
i approve this messagelicenje wrote:And you tink that lvl 16 ppl with 8 skills on skill bar, 50% mount, no major skills (KDs,silence, heal debuff...), with 1 or 2 tactic (and not even good ones) are fighting ppl with full conq all skills all tactic w/o possibility of geting that same gear ppl that are pwning them are using is appropriate ?Hargrim wrote:Because we think it's not appropriate.MindControl wrote:Can u please clarify why the low levels cannot get conq and genesis gear
Indeed we do. Why should a low level skip all progression?licenje wrote:And you tink that lvl 16 ppl with 8 skills on skill bar, 50% mount, no major skills (KDs,silence, heal debuff...), with 1 or 2 tactic (and not even good ones) are fighting ppl with full conq all skills all tactic w/o possibility of geting that same gear ppl that are pwning them are using is appropriate ?Hargrim wrote:Because we think it's not appropriate.MindControl wrote:Can u please clarify why the low levels cannot get conq and genesis gear
No , only deploy standard is activated for nowPumatouch wrote:What a great patch! Excellent work all around, I wouldn't know where to begin.
About those banners; can they be captured and stored?Spoiler:
Well 5 days ago just got 3 new members in Pwn stars from rl after 2 months of trying to convince them that is ok to be cannon meat from 16-40 cos you can get end game gear so its worth time invested ( they where concerned about fighting lvl 40 rr 80 ppl in rvr as noobs in game and lvls) , cos we are all 30+ years old with limited time we can play... and now we need new gameNatherul wrote:Indeed we do. Why should a low level skip all progression?licenje wrote:And you tink that lvl 16 ppl with 8 skills on skill bar, 50% mount, no major skills (KDs,silence, heal debuff...), with 1 or 2 tactic (and not even good ones) are fighting ppl with full conq all skills all tactic w/o possibility of geting that same gear ppl that are pwning them are using is appropriate ?Hargrim wrote:
Because we think it's not appropriate.
And besides low levels are bolstered so that they can fight quite well against 40.
This ain't up for debate, low levels should NOT skip progression
This. The most efficient way to farm conq right now is running between BOs just so you can earn contribution towards each BO, you don't even need to kill anyone; few aoe hits on the zerg are sufficient and, also, you don't even need to fight directly on the BOs to get a tick because the BO contribution proximity range is very forgiving.Scrilian wrote:The conq crest supply is now off the roofs. What previously took a few days now only takes a few hours.
Heck, I made like 70 crests yesterday in Talabec in a couple of hours which previously took me like a week. And you know me, I EXTREMELY LOW SKILLED, aka "11112211" or "no-so-bright-skillzard" - so no last hits here and very little luck.
On the more serious note tho, I'd watch the crest gain rates. Unless of course I had a new after-conqueror set of gear ready to be deployed relatively soon.
Low levels do progress. If you play RVR you will still get all gear from lower tiers as you level up. You will still equipt all pvp sets. Level 20 cant equipt Conq. There is you progression...Natherul wrote:
This ain't up for debate, low levels should NOT skip progression
It is skipping progression if a say level 30 character already has full conq in their bags, there is close to no need then at all to even look at annihilator. This IS skipping progression.fatbozo wrote:Low levels do progress. If you play RVR you will still get all gear from lower tiers as you level up. You will still equipt all pvp sets. Level 20 cant equipt Conq. There is you progression...Natherul wrote:
This ain't up for debate, low levels should NOT skip progression
This is about you not allowing players to get few BiS parts, before they reach high enough level. Actaully players could be allready wearing that gear. But no!! they need to pump few more levels and few more RR levels before they get to even get it. And I dont understant what are we achieving with that.
This will couse players to be weak and undergeard as they reach 40. As players come closer and closer to level 40, ther bonus stats from debolster get smaler and smaler. As players aproach level 40 they need strong gear to compesate for the stat loss. Now guys that hit 40 will have crap gear and will be easy kill for debolsterd and full BiS players.
Another problem we have with this system is that there isnt really any reason for <40 to play RvR at all untill 40/41. Allmost all gear before BiS can be traded for few Conq Medals and you are done with RvR items untill 40/41.
Are u aware how many gold bags do u need to open untill u get full conq?and genesis?how many duplicates u get?Natherul wrote:It is skipping progression if a say level 30 character already has full conq in their bags, there is close to no need then at all to even look at annihilator. This IS skipping progression.fatbozo wrote:Low levels do progress. If you play RVR you will still get all gear from lower tiers as you level up. You will still equipt all pvp sets. Level 20 cant equipt Conq. There is you progression...Natherul wrote:
This ain't up for debate, low levels should NOT skip progression
This is about you not allowing players to get few BiS parts, before they reach high enough level. Actaully players could be allready wearing that gear. But no!! they need to pump few more levels and few more RR levels before they get to even get it. And I dont understant what are we achieving with that.
This will couse players to be weak and undergeard as they reach 40. As players come closer and closer to level 40, ther bonus stats frfromjom debolster get smaler and smaler. As players aproach level 40 they need strong gear to compesate for the stat loss. Now guys that hit 40 will have crap gear and will be easy kill for debolsterd and full BiS players.
Another problem we have with this system is that there isnt really any reason for <40 to play RvR at all untill 40/41. Allmost all gear before BiS can be traded for few Conq Medals and you are done with RvR items untill 40/41.
Also the part about being weak, if you manage to get annihilator (which drops at a lower level then conq) there is not that big of a difference in stats, we dont have the same powercreep as live did.
