Return of Reckoning

Another nerf to Shaman an under performing class. Who want's my stuff?

Holy shitmar way to fully flush destro down the drain as if daily 1 star IC was not already a clear indicator of what's the current situation on the server xD
Order based devs confirmed. I wonder what'll be the plan when there's not a single destro warband to fight against, probably nerf destro more.

- Sharpened Arrers Will now only apply to Big Shootin' abilities.


will 'Sharpened Arrers' still benefit auto attack arrows?

It is about time BO at least get a decent ST punt (like all other tanks). Removing bo cd reduction was probably a good thing but with that removed there was no reason what so ever to buff the SM one. Also, give three hit combo back to snb.

So was this patch intended to make everyone stop playing mSH? Squigbeast got nerfed so ST burst is out the window especially for ranked when it was barely there in the first place. If I joined ranked now it's basically a throw. No more triumphant jewel for me I suppose. Also don't even have a kd lol. Not sure how that happened. Bounce and Big Bouncin' are basically the same ability now except one is a channel ability. Can't chase anyone down with only 25% speed increase from Outta My Way. So I guess now mSH is just 2 button aoe spammer with no cc (except a 5s snare)? Strength in Numbas is now useless. (it looks like destro morale pumps in general got nerfed and order got buffed lol - which is a separate discussion - considering that was one thing destro had going for them) So since people thought it was OP, the answer is to make it useless? No chance at winning any 1v1 fights now. Just have to ride the zerg and spam.

I'm just really confused about balancing sometimes... I get that classes need to be tweaked but why run them into the ground in the name of "balance"?

xoonerfree wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 7:23 pm - Sharpened Arrers Will now only apply to Big Shootin' abilities.


will 'Sharpened Arrers' still benefit auto attack arrows?

Nope

wargrimnir wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 7:29 pm

xoonerfree wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 7:23 pm - Sharpened Arrers Will now only apply to Big Shootin' abilities.


will 'Sharpened Arrers' still benefit auto attack arrows?

Nope

OK thanks, harsh. cheers.

Hey, Devs. I know this thread is mostly about bitching and I would like to as well, but I think you should take a look at what you did touch.

• AM: Lambant Aura no longer builds tranquility stacks
  The AP drain doesn't apply what so ever. Cost the GCD and AP to cast, doesn't debuff them nor buff you.
  WP: M1 change can only be applied to you, no matter who you target.
  SM: Using Whisper Winds doesn't change your stance back down. You get to stay in stance 3. So WW first and then you can do a second stance 3 attack.

If you want to revert the patch due to just abundant bugs, we would understand.

DonPeyote wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 7:26 pm So was this patch intended to make everyone stop playing mSH? Squigbeast got nerfed so ST burst is out the window especially for ranked when it was barely there in the first place. If I joined ranked now it's basically a throw. No more triumphant jewel for me I suppose. Also don't even have a kd lol. Not sure how that happened. Bounce and Big Bouncin' are basically the same ability now except one is a channel ability. Can't chase anyone down with only 25% speed increase from Outta My Way. So I guess now mSH is just 2 button aoe spammer with no cc (except a 5s snare)? Strength in Numbas is now useless. (it looks like destro morale pumps in general got nerfed and order got buffed lol - which is a separate discussion - considering that was one thing destro had going for them) So since people thought it was OP, the answer is to make it useless? No chance at winning any 1v1 fights now. Just have to ride the zerg and spam.

I'm just really confused about balancing sometimes... I get that classes need to be tweaked but why run them into the ground in the name of "balance"?

We could have accepted the nerf of m1 but the 25% speed and the stun... It's not understandable. They just want the msh dead, they did a great job. And to finish us rly nicely they want to nerf the fasta to st so msh wont have any fasta to help him do damage... Great.

Note to add, Realm Champions don’t make ultimate changes or balance ideas. We helped with areas development wanted to focus on and we initially brought up morale and CDR balance before class adjustments which can be done in the future to adjust to morale/CDR changes that might be needed. Got to adjust the major/obvious changes before classes else you’ll just be going in circles if morale/CDR isn’t equal between realms.

Majority of the ideas weren’t done as requested but that is fine. Balancing in game never ends and adjustments will always happen.

ORvR is largely based on who has the Zerg size and organized vs organized 24v24 shows which side is getting heavier benefits of Immaculate Defense and Windblock too fast while it’s rare to see ID from an Order tank. Players will eventually learn to adjust. Think it took a week after the Shadow Warrior change before adjustments were made. Order size of oRvR has been due to a lot of realm swaps from destro side so that’s not a factor or reason for balance that order is pushing more cities or larger numbers.

Black Orcs aren’t gutted and still a really strong class.