Re: [Dev] White Lion proposal
Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 2:03 pm
Leonine Frenzy got already a 2 SEC iCD that's not the issue
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So you wanna take good things from Mara to wl.Grunbag wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 7:54 am I think we could nerf a bit ST burst tools and increase a bit WL aoe capacities .
My ideas was :
- Ethereal Cleave New Hunter 9pts Ability: You cleave your enemies within 30 feet, dealing X spiritual damage over 21 seconds. Your targets take a 80 ability penalty to Initiative and Weaponskill.
- Echoing Roar radius is increased by 10ft
- Force Opportunity move to Hunter 13pts
- Whirling Axe move to Hunter Core.
- Pack Hunting : While you are using Trained to Hunt , all of your hits have a 25% chance to remove 225 points of Morale from the enemy.
- Brutal Pounce need your pet to be 30ft within you
- Pet stats are scaled down
- General pet code (for all pet career when they summon their pet) : Any time you are healed, your Pet will become healed for 25% of the value as long as it is within 30 feet.
This would give WL a niche in WB (as we balance around group and warband this could be taken into consideration) , being a « good pick » but not best pick , while reduce his ST capacities. In addition , pets would be less an handicap and WL would finally enjoy more aspect of the game (siege and large scale fights)
Ok but this changes nothingshaggyboomboom wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:19 pm If FO gets moved to 13 pts then I don’t see a reason why CC shouldn’t be moved as well?
Yes if we nerf the st burst and balance also WL to have a place in warband .larsulu wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:51 pmSo you wanna take good things from Mara to wl.Grunbag wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 7:54 am I think we could nerf a bit ST burst tools and increase a bit WL aoe capacities .
My ideas was :
- Ethereal Cleave New Hunter 9pts Ability: You cleave your enemies within 30 feet, dealing X spiritual damage over 21 seconds. Your targets take a 80 ability penalty to Initiative and Weaponskill.
- Echoing Roar radius is increased by 10ft
- Force Opportunity move to Hunter 13pts
- Whirling Axe move to Hunter Core.
- Pack Hunting : While you are using Trained to Hunt , all of your hits have a 25% chance to remove 225 points of Morale from the enemy.
- Brutal Pounce need your pet to be 30ft within you
- Pet stats are scaled down
- General pet code (for all pet career when they summon their pet) : Any time you are healed, your Pet will become healed for 25% of the value as long as it is within 30 feet.
This would give WL a niche in WB (as we balance around group and warband this could be taken into consideration) , being a « good pick » but not best pick , while reduce his ST capacities. In addition , pets would be less an handicap and WL would finally enjoy more aspect of the game (siege and large scale fights)
You are making more skill core when wl alredy dont have anything to spec into man, read my post about it (pag 7 #66).Grunbag wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 7:54 am I think we could nerf a bit ST burst tools and increase a bit WL aoe capacities .
My ideas was :
- Ethereal Cleave New Hunter 9pts Ability: You cleave your enemies within 30 feet, dealing X spiritual damage over 21 seconds. Your targets take a 80 ability penalty to Initiative and Weaponskill.
- Echoing Roar radius is increased by 10ft
- Force Opportunity move to Hunter 13pts
- Whirling Axe move to Hunter Core.
- Pack Hunting : While you are using Trained to Hunt , all of your hits have a 25% chance to remove 225 points of Morale from the enemy.
- Brutal Pounce need your pet to be 30ft within you
- Pet stats are scaled down
- General pet code (for all pet career when they summon their pet) : Any time you are healed, your Pet will become healed for 25% of the value as long as it is within 30 feet.
This would give WL a niche in WB (as we balance around group and warband this could be taken into consideration) , being a « good pick » but not best pick , while reduce his ST capacities. In addition , pets would be less an handicap and WL would finally enjoy more aspect of the game (siege and large scale fights)
ST Wounds debuff Its on slayer.....Drysill wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 11:54 amThese are your arguments … calling me mad and lie shamelessly about skills… gg.Stophy22 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:01 am Lol I know it by reading the thread... and WL has everything Mara has and SH has to preform well solo. Your argument makes 0 sense, you’re just mad. Wargrim said it’s a nerf. I’m not asking for a nerf it’s happening.
Go ahead and nerf blackguard lol, Ill still play the class. I wish you’d read the other 10 pages before making a comment
So where on WL are the following effects that mara has and WL has as well??
Wounds Debuff (Thunderus Blow)
50% armor bypass tactic (Piercing Bite)
Self-heal (Monstro)
No more lies ….. WL has not everything mara has
Wargrim said it’s a nerf. You are asking for more..
The last 6v6 event which saw a grand total of 2 destro teams playing, one of which was a last minute form up, the other of which played rather bad compared to normal? Thats not a massive sample size to run on. Not sure about this historical bit either, if I am not mistaken they ran ASW/WH the tournament before. I highly doubt removing the conditional component on primal fury, or altering pack synergy to be something that doesnt depend on the pet (read, I didnt say it should maintain 50% crit damage bonus) suddenly makes the other specs some killing machine.abodam wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:02 am This is funny, last 6v6 event one of the order groups ran WL in Axeman spec with Revenge and won all their fights with no issues, and historically have great record with this setup in all 6v6 tournaments. Buffing other specs would just swap FOTM to other tree. Not to mention how many classes have no place in any serious competitive play.