Return of Reckoning

Penril wrote: an Alpha of a (supposedly) RvR game.

No one is treating this like an alpha. Its rolling development and its live. If it was an alpha we would all be under no illusion that at some point every character will be wiped. That wont happen so its not an alpha and people are putting the effort to gear and level just as you would a live game. If it was a alpha people would be spending alot of that time in other games I know id be doing swtor season arenas if I thought this was actually an alpha.

Telen wrote:

Penril wrote: an Alpha of a (supposedly) RvR game.

No one is treating this like an alpha. Its rolling development and its live. If it was an alpha we would all be under no illusion that at some point every character will be wiped. That wont happen so its not an alpha and people are putting the effort to gear and level just as you would a live game. If it was a alpha people would be spending alot of that time in other games.

Just because people don't treat this as an alpha doesn't mean it isn't. Just ask any dev:

http://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/ ... 838#p10838
http://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/ ... 406#p48406
http://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/ ... 563#p42563



Then again, most people don't even know what an Alpha or Beta is. Most just want to play and never contribute at all (reporting bugs, testing things, etc.) like you are supposed to do in these stages. Hmmm... i wonder how much do these players help the community by farming gors?

"Hey Devs, these Gors take too long to solo, reduce their health!!! yayyy i improved the game /flex "

When did I mention Gors? Penril king of the strawmen.

This is not an alpha. If it was there would be a wipe so noone would feel the need to gear and level. As it isnt an alpha they do. Personally I think there does need to be a wipe when all rvr mechanics for all tiers are added to make it clear this is an alpha for testing. That would change the player attitude.

Telen wrote:When did I mention Gors? Penril king of the strawmen.

This is not an alpha. If it was there would be a wipe so noone would feel the need to gear and level. As it isnt an alpha they do. Personally I think there does need to be a wipe when all rvr mechanics for all tiers are added to make it clear this is an alpha for testing. That would change the player attitude.

So you just decided to ignore what devs are saying in the links i posted?

We don't have a fully working RvR. No T3 or 4. No functioning PQs. No instances. Only 3 SCs.

Stop with the "LALALALALALALA THIS ISN'T AN ALPHA". Because it is.

Item wipe is fine as long as you have equipped items afterwards.
Why blue items such trouble to get is because Rewards systems is missing. Instead of doing PQs or taking Keeps and receiving gear bags as reward we have to wait for a drop chance to hit. Almost everybody was running in mostly blue with few purples back then.
Purple items now is like - "omg, a relic"

Penril wrote:

Telen wrote:When did I mention Gors? Penril king of the strawmen.

This is not an alpha. If it was there would be a wipe so noone would feel the need to gear and level. As it isnt an alpha they do. Personally I think there does need to be a wipe when all rvr mechanics for all tiers are added to make it clear this is an alpha for testing. That would change the player attitude.

So you just decided to ignore what devs are saying in the links i posted?

We don't have a fully working RvR. No T3 or 4. No functioning PQs. No instances. Only 3 SCs.

Stop with the "LALALALALALALA THIS ISN'T AN ALPHA". Because it is.

Yes and the Tories just rebranded the minimum wage the living wage when it isnt. You can call anything anything. This is an alpha in name only. Unless someone can correct me and there will be a wipe before 'beta'. This is rolling live development and people will play it as such.

Penril wrote: I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one man. People would just go back to grinding mobs. Which is really sad considering those items aren't even that good (a good player with Conquest gear will stomp a bad player with Woe gear).

If people are really worried about a gear-gap between those who hoarded these items and the rest of us, then maybe we should have another item wipe? (i'm not asking it for myself; i don't care about gear "gaps" atm). And to be honest with you, i wouldn't feel bad for people who grinded (in your own words) tens of thousands of mobs per day in an Alpha of a (supposedly) RvR game.

Again, in theory great, however in practise (and through a lot of testing) I can say that a +18 strength jewel doesn't radically improve dps over a +10 (or even no strength jewel), other things do come into play

Armor value, block value in shields, stat itemization (woe being often str/tou for mdps is much more useful than say weapon skill/initiative (initiative is a useful tertiary defensive stat on an item but diminishing returns kick in very early)

That said, a good player can wreak havoc in greens for sure, but (a) there aren't that many good players (b) even if they are good players they will often want BiS gear to make their superiority feel even more apparent (c) weaker players will always want the crutch of superior gear make up the difference

If the blue/purple drop rate in PvP was much higher than in PvE (in no small part just due to there being far fewer kills to be had in PvP than in PvE) the incentive would still be very much stronger to acquire gear through PvP (to use or to trade for something you can use), but also means that if people grind mobs to L20 they still have the chance to get the odd blue or purple during the xp grind

When we say the game is alpha, we do mean just that:

- Not feature complete
- Buggy
- No guarantees.

While we (at least I) strive to maintain the player experience and devote attention to issues that are most detrimental to the day to day gameplay, that isn't the same as guaranteeing that serious issues won't occur, that these issues will not compromise the server and that we will never again have to take any drastic action to protect the integrity of the game.

Of course, we want to see players on the server and enjoy the work that has been done, hence why we don't run the server in a tedious pure testing / alpha setup, where everyone has infinite resources.